Midair Over Long Island

On Oct 23, 10:13 am, "Marco Leon" wrote:

I'm really glad they came out with the quartz halogen lamps for my airplane.
I keep the landing light on within 50 miles of the airport without worrying
about it burning out every ten hours.


50 miles? Why so far out? I normally put the lights on at initial
tower callup. (8-10nm)

"Kingfish" wrote in message
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On Oct 23, 10:13 am, "Marco Leon" wrote:

50 miles? Why so far out? I normally put the lights on at initial
tower callup. (8-10nm)

Because of the location of FRG. To the north, there's quite a bit of traffic
zig-zagging across the Long Island Sound. The a bit more north, you have
Bridgeport and New Haven traffic. To the west and south west, you have the
Class B and I always keep the landing light on there because I'm constantly
getting called as traffic for the airliners. To the east, you have the
Islip, Brookhaven, and East Hampton traffic. East hampton might be a bit far
for the landing light but my [relatively] close call came over the VOR there
so it's a personal procedure

Long Island in general is busy. I probably can do without it directly north
and south but whenever I come close to the CT shoreline and the NJ Class B
edge, I generally put it on.

Marco

SockPuppet wrote:
Last flight I was coming in to Austin and approach called out traffic
ahead of me, ll o'clock, one mile, my altitude. That plane was also
going in to land and there was little chance of me overtaking them (a
twin in front of a 152). Still the fact that I couldn't see them was
making me very antsy.

After contacting tower and getting an update on the other plane's
location I finally saw them just before I turned final. It was no
problem.

And then it turned the guy behind me couldn't see my plane either.
Talked to him at the FBO after landing.


When I'm in a busy area, I turn on the landing lights, day or night. They still
may not be able to see me but it improves my chances.



--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN
mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com

TheSmokingGnu wrote:
Marco Leon wrote:
...and there were no injuries, thank God. Google for news articles. It
was between a Cessna 152 and a Piper Saratoga.

Is it safe to assume the Saratoga won?

I think they both won!.

Mortimer Schnerd, RN wrote:
When I'm in a busy area, I turn on the landing lights, day or night. They still
may not be able to see me but it improves my chances.

Same here.

"Denny" wrote

There is a lot to be said for two strobes - top and bottom - and
landing lights ON, when in these traffic areas...

That doesn't help in situations where you are high and overtaking the other
plane, and it is below the cowl.

Of course, a few clearing turns would help that situation, immensely.
--
Jim in NC

"Morgans" wrote in message
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"Denny" wrote

There is a lot to be said for two strobes - top and bottom - and
landing lights ON, when in these traffic areas...

That doesn't help in situations where you are high and overtaking the
other plane, and it is below the cowl.

Of course, a few clearing turns would help that situation, immensely.
--
Jim in NC


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"Morgans" wrote in
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"Denny" wrote

There is a lot to be said for two strobes - top and bottom - and
landing lights ON, when in these traffic areas...

That doesn't help in situations where you are high and overtaking the
other plane, and it is below the cowl.

Of course, a few clearing turns would help that situation, immensely.

Well, exactly. There really isn't any substitute.



Bertie

"Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe" wrote

http://wingsandwheels.com/page4.htm

Yep, that is a neat gadget to be sure, but you never will get 100%
protection with a fool-proof gadget.

They keep on making dumber fools to defeat it! g
--
Jim in NC

On Oct 23, 9:48 am, "Marco Leon" wrote:
50 miles? Why so far out? I normally put the lights on at initial
tower callup. (8-10nm)

Because of the location of FRG. ....... Easthampton might be a bit far
for the landing light but my [relatively] close call came over the VOR there
so it's a personal procedure

Long Island in general is busy. I probably can do without it directly north
and south but whenever I come close to the CT shoreline and the NJ Class B
edge, I generally put it on.


The few times I've flown into FRG the traffic was fairly light, but
not being familiar with the landmarks given by the tower was a bit
confusing. I fly out of Bridgeport and Danbury, (sometimes Oxford) and
am usually going to Montauk when heading out that way, it's normally
pretty quiet on that end of L.I. I'll never figure out why HTO and
MTP have the same CTAF - they're 16nm apart and that makes for one
busy freq during summer...