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Wolfgang Schwanke writes:

Mxsmanic wrote in
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No, I'm just in Europe, where 250 euro per hour is not uncommon

A C15x or DA20 can be chartered for EUR 100 - 120 EUR wet, often below
EUR 100 through a flying club.

And where I live, you can get the Private *and* Instrument ratings
for around $10K.

Where I live, the private pilot costs between $21,000 and $28,000 to
obtain,

A PPL can be had for total costs of:

EUR 5,500 750 kg
EUR 7,500 2 tons

EUR 4,500 3-axis microlight (comparable to US light sports aircraft) is
also an option.

These are "realistic" prices meaning they're not theoretical minimums
that hardly anyone achieves in practice, but real life.

and an instrument rating is another $28,000 or so.

I find prices around EUR 13,000.

So 735 hours would cost me only $132,500. Somehow I don't find that very
consoling.

And I live in France, where the prices are different. Are your flying club
memberships free?

Only some pilots, because if you factor in additional costs like flight
to the US, accomodation, and the bureaucracy of having the US licence
transferred to a European one, the difference melts away. It is really
only attractive for people who travel to the US frequently anyway.

I saw the figures and they looked favorable, although it's expensive no matter
how you obtain it. Plus, in France, you need a higher medical for IR, for
some reason.

Mxsmanic wrote in
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Wolfgang Schwanke writes:

Mxsmanic wrote in
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No, I'm just in Europe, where 250 euro per hour is not uncommon

A C15x or DA20 can be chartered for EUR 100 - 120 EUR wet, often
below EUR 100 through a flying club.

And where I live, you can get the Private *and* Instrument ratings
for around $10K.

Where I live, the private pilot costs between $21,000 and $28,000
to obtain,

A PPL can be had for total costs of:

EUR 5,500 750 kg
EUR 7,500 2 tons

EUR 4,500 3-axis microlight (comparable to US light sports aircraft)
is also an option.

These are "realistic" prices meaning they're not theoretical minimums
that hardly anyone achieves in practice, but real life.

and an instrument rating is another $28,000 or so.

I find prices around EUR 13,000.

So 735 hours would cost me only $132,500. Somehow I don't find that
very consoling.

And I live in France, where the prices are different. Are your flying
club memberships free?


You know nothing of flying in France.

I, OTOH do.

ho travel to the US frequently
anyway.

I saw the figures and they looked favorable, although it's expensive
no matter how you obtain it. Plus, in France, you need a higher
medical for IR, for some reason.




You're not flying, you fjukkwit.

Wolfgang Schwanke wrote in :

Mxsmanic wrote in
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So 735 hours would cost me only $132,500. Somehow I don't find that
very consoling.

If you fly that much you should buy a plane which will bring costs
down.

He couldn't affrd a chuck glider.


Bertie

Wolfgang Schwanke writes:

If you fly that much you should buy a plane which will bring costs
down.

I fly a Baron in simulation. That's about $1.9 million to buy. And I also
fly a 737 and 747; those are around $135 million and $280 million,
respectively.

But you'll have a hard time flying 700 hrs in a year. That is
about 1/2 of all the VMC hours there are in northern Europe.

In simulation, I fly in the Great American Southwest, which is VMC almost
every day of the year.

Admittedly, but presumably not very much so. I was giving rough
estimates anyway.

From my standpoint, $132,000 isn't really any better than $250,000.

No, but you'll reach the break even point pretty quickly. I find
membership fees equivalent to 1 hour per 3 months or so, negligible
compared to the hours you quote.

Can you fly 747s at the club?

Mxsmanic wrote in
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Wolfgang Schwanke writes:

If you fly that much you should buy a plane which will bring costs
down.

I fly a Baron in simulation.

No, you don't.


That's about $1.9 million to buy.

No, it isn't.


And I
also fly a 737 and 747;

No, you don't.


those are around $135 million and $280
million, respectively.

No they aren;t.


But you'll have a hard time flying 700 hrs in a year.

No, I don;t.

That is
about 1/2 of all the VMC hours there are in northern Europe.

No, it isn't.



In simulation, I fly in the Great American Southwest,

No you don't.


which is VMC
almost every day of the year.


No, it isn't.



Admittedly, but presumably not very much so. I was giving rough
estimates anyway.

From my standpoint, $132,000 isn't really any better than $250,000.

You're an idiot.



No, but you'll reach the break even point pretty quickly. I find
membership fees equivalent to 1 hour per 3 months or so, negligible
compared to the hours you quote.

Can you fly 747s at the club?



I can! It's a pretty exclusive club, though.

We don't let fjukktards in.

Bertie

On Oct 27, 6:32 pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Mxsmanic wrote :

Can you fly 747s at the club?

I can! It's a pretty exclusive club, though.


Makes you wonder how mixedup doesn't know just what you need to join
that exclusive club.


Or that you get paid to be there (until you fail a medical)

george wrote in
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On Oct 27, 6:32 pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Mxsmanic wrote
:

Can you fly 747s at the club?

I can! It's a pretty exclusive club, though.


Makes you wonder how mixedup doesn't know just what you need to join
that exclusive club.


Or that you get paid to be there (until you fail a medical)


He'd have to leave his house first, of course....



bertie