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Old October 15th 03, 02:02 PM
Gunnar
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"tscottme" skrev i melding
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Jordan wrote in message
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Yea just keep making fun of every nation that doesn't agree with the
USA. You think you can take on the world? I can't wait for the day
when americans realise they are no longer the major world power.

Don't you think enough people hate americans already? Why do you keep
acting to reinforce their perceptions?


Funny they hate America but fall all over themselves to ingratiate
themselves with the Russians, the Arabs, and all the other full-time
ogres. I think that says more about the rationality of the Europeans
than the faults of the US. Besides, being powerful means you don't need
everyone to like you, fear is enough. You don't see much European anger
about slavery in the Arab world, or harsh treatment of Christians in
China or the Middle East. But one cop killer gets sentenced to death
and the Euro trash has a seizure.


Could it be that we'l like for you to be of a higher standard than the
rest... ?

The only moral justification for us ( that is the vestern world ) being
"better" than the rest is that we are in fact BETTER than the rest of the
world !
And better means higher standards in treatment, letter of the law etc.


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Old October 15th 03, 04:05 PM
Stephen Harding
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Gunnar wrote:

Could it be that we'l like for you to be of a higher standard than the
rest... ?


And how does a de facto policy of returning Saddam Hussein to power in
Iraq make for high standards?

The only moral justification for us ( that is the vestern world ) being
"better" than the rest is that we are in fact BETTER than the rest of the
world !
And better means higher standards in treatment, letter of the law etc.


Again, how does aiding the return of Saddam Hussein to Iraqi leadership
promote these high ideals?

Europe [and the UN] isn't doing this???

Well, you figure things out.

-- What "former" Iraqi despot still lives in Iraq (as far as we know)?

-- What former leadership has millions [perhaps billions] of dollars still
at their disposal in Iraq?

-- What former leadership party has large supplies of weaponry (possibly
even WMD) still available for use in Iraq?

-- What former leadership party has ruthless people, skilled in the use of
weaponry (and "attitude adjustment" techniques) still at their disposal
in Iraq?

-- What do you think members of a former Iraqi power structure will do when
US forces depart Iraq if all these resources are still available to them?

High standards of how the world should act won't help you come to a very
viable conclusion given these facts, and you might not like the answer
these facts point to, given your high minded policy demands.


SMH
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Old October 16th 03, 12:03 PM
tscottme
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Gunnar wrote in message
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Could it be that we'l like for you to be of a higher standard than the
rest... ?

The only moral justification for us ( that is the vestern world )

being
"better" than the rest is that we are in fact BETTER than the rest of

the
world !
And better means higher standards in treatment, letter of the law etc.



The truth is the arrogant Europeans aren't holding the US to a higher
standard, they set perfection as the minimal acceptable level of action
for the US and expect nothing from what they see as the "inferior
peoples" any where else. That's the most generous interpretation. The
rest of us know that the complaints of some of the Europeans and all of
the US liberals is aimed at undermining our resolve to do the hard
tasks. They remind me more of spoiled and lazy teenagers that bitch and
moan when mom and dad don't buy toys for them fast enough.

Remember all the "what about North Korea" just before the Iraq war? All
of the usual suspects were certain action in Iraq should be put on hold
while the DPRK was managed. Once the first bomb fell in Iraq the usual
suspects forgot all about North Korea, proving that all the Europeans
want is a good reason to complain.

If the Europeans wanted to solve these important problems they wouldn't
have spent much of the last 12 years helping Saddam get around sanctions
and easing the UN to just dropping the issue rather than solving the
problem. In short, solve a few problems the way you want them solved
rather than just complaining that the people that are working the
problem aren't working it the way you want.

Thanks for taking time out of your busy schedule of going on strike and
going on vacation to respond.


--

Scott
--------
"Interestingly, we started to lose this war only after the embedded
reporters pulled out. Back when we got the news directly from Iraq,
there was victory and optimism. Now that the news is filtered through
the mainstream media here in America, all we hear is death and
destruction and quagmire..." Ann Coulter
http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2003/091703.htm


 




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