please stop bashing France

"Pierre-Henri Baras" wrote:

Evidence of what??? French bashing??? Are you kidding me???

Monday february 10th 2003 National Post article. Want me to give extracts of
it?

Yes. National Post? Never heard of it. Oh, wait - that's a *Canadian*
paper... despite rumors to the contrary, Canada is not a part of the
United States.

Sunday feb 9th. Thomas Friedman article in the NY Times.

Thomas Friedman is an op-ed writer.

A summary:

"ABSTRACT - Thomas L Friedman Op-Ed column on his wish that France
could be voted off UN Security Council and replaced by India, world's
biggest democracy and one that has not grown 'silly' trying to
differentiate itself from America; finds French position on Iraq utterly
incoherent and warns that only way to force Saddam Hussein into
compliance without war is for whole world to line up against his
misbehavior (M)"

Sounds good. Why *is* France a permanent member of the Security
Council? It's not like they're important or anything.

the previous week in the NY Times Geoffrey Nunberg wrote a "French bashing
dictionnary".

Actually, not. "A Lexicon of Francophobia, From Emerson to Fox TV." It
sums up a few phrases in use by some editorialists and the like, but
it's hardly a "dictionary," and spends more time on the French-English
disputes of the last 600 years or so.

George Will's articles in the Washington Post.

Editorials. Once again, not "front page articles."

Feb 6th Bill O'Reilly's show on Fox asking people to email the French Embasy
with insults.

Considering the French actions about that time, that's a fairly mild
response.

Feb 10th the Wall Street Journal called Jacques Chirac a "bald Joan of Arc
travestite" and a pygme.

Yet another editorial. And not too far off the mark, if you actually
read the piece.

So these editorial comments by folks count a "front page news" to you?

If so, you need to go back and read some of the editorials and editorial
cartoons in Le Monde, including all of the "bloof for oil" bits.

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"Chad Irby" a écrit dans le message de news:
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Oh great, a revisionist.
Or if you really need help with the frenchbashing in the US media try
http://www.miquelon.org/journalists.html

PHB

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"Pierre-Henri Baras" wrote:

"Chad Irby" a écrit dans le message de news:
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Oh great, a revisionist.

I'm still waiting for that "front page" news reporting you were talking
about.

Instead of the half-hearted attempts at passing off opinion pieces off
as "news."

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This Chad Irby is totally brainwashed...


"Pierre-Henri Baras" a écrit dans le message de news:
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"Chad Irby" a écrit dans le message de news:
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Oh great, a revisionist.
Or if you really need help with the frenchbashing in the US media try
http://www.miquelon.org/journalists.html

PHB

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"Mike" wrote:

This Chad Irby is totally brainwashed...

....said the French guy who apparently doesn't read his own national
papers...

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ok,you got it!
good guy...
nice,now.
A good sleep,no?

"Chad Irby" a écrit dans le message de news:
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"Mike" wrote:

This Chad Irby is totally brainwashed...

...said the French guy who apparently doesn't read his own national
papers...

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"Chad Irby" a écrit dans le message de
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Are you seriously denying that there was a French bashing campaign in the
US? I read a lot the US press avalaible on the Internet and believe me,
there was such a campaign! And for some (fewer and fewer every day to be
honest) it's not even over yet...

According to me, the most infamous piece was Ron Marr's article titled "Why
I hate the French". Just an excerpt :

"[...] The French eat horse. They eat glands. They eat bugs. I know this
because they rarely brush their teeth. Their women whine and complain and
braid their armpit hair. Their men are beret-wearing twig-boys with bad
complexions. All French people consider themselves intellectually superior,
and I suppose they are if the comparison is to an incontinent house cat.
Give them two minutes and they will inevitably rave of their sexual prowess,
which is a little like Christopher Reeve bragging about his speed in the 40
yard dash.[...]"
The rest at : http://www.americandaily.com/item/1287, but you probably
already had a good laugh reading it before.

OK, that kind of bs was not on the front page of the LA times, of the Dallas
Morning News or the Washington Post but it is printed in many local papers
throughout the country and reach million people.
OK, the vast majority of these people of course don't take it for word, but
it spreads hatred and distrust. For instance, how many of your fellow
citizens actually think, beyond any odds and despite the lack of evidence
and the denials, that France actually supported and helped SH's regime
*against* the US?


ArVa

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"ArVa" wrote:

"Chad Irby" a écrit dans le message de
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Are you seriously denying that there was a French bashing campaign in
the US?

Yes. There was not, by any stretch, a campaign to bash the French for
their pathetic actions of this year.

The French got bashed, for sure, but it was not anything like a
"campaign," and not that common, compared to the official French line of
portraying the US as an evil empire in the making.

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Dammit folks, can you just resist responding to the Western Europeans
for a while? My killfile is so full of French addresses it sounds like a
herd of frogs in here.

George

George Shirley wrote in message
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Dammit folks, can you just resist responding to the Western Europeans
for a while? My killfile is so full of French addresses it sounds like
a
herd of frogs in here.

George

Be grateful that smell doesn't transmit across the net.

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"Interestingly, we started to lose this war only after the embedded
reporters pulled out. Back when we got the news directly from Iraq,
there was victory and optimism. Now that the news is filtered through
the mainstream media here in America, all we hear is death and
destruction and quagmire..." Ann Coulter
http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2003/091703.htm