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October 30th 07, 12:21 AM
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CNN article on problems in Air Travel, as seen by FAA
"John Kulp" wrote Gates can be a problem sometime but not runways. The GPS system would handle about 25% more flights on the same runways. Aren't you paying enough all ready for flights? Want to pay more when the politicos are stealing what money is already being paid for? So you are saying, at peak rush times, there is 25% extra time for separation to be maintained? -- Jim in NC 
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October 30th 07, 01:00 AM
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CNN article on problems in Air Travel, as seen by FAA
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 20:21:51 -0400, "Morgans"
wrote: "John Kulp" wrote Gates can be a problem sometime but not runways. The GPS system would handle about 25% more flights on the same runways. Aren't you paying enough all ready for flights? Want to pay more when the politicos are stealing what money is already being paid for? So you are saying, at peak rush times, there is 25% extra time for separation to be maintained? -- Jim in NC GPS allows for closer spacing and straighter flight paths allowing more flights to be handled in the same time span. About 25% more.
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October 30th 07, 01:57 AM
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CNN article on problems in Air Travel, as seen by FAA
John Kulp wrote:
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 20:21:51 -0400, "Morgans" wrote: "John Kulp" wrote Gates can be a problem sometime but not runways. The GPS system would handle about 25% more flights on the same runways. Aren't you paying enough all ready for flights? Want to pay more when the politicos are stealing what money is already being paid for? So you are saying, at peak rush times, there is 25% extra time for separation to be maintained? -- Jim in NC GPS allows for closer spacing and straighter flight paths allowing more flights to be handled in the same time span. About 25% more. Not if the FAA ****es off all the controllers and runs them off!! GPS is useless without controllers The FAA is ****ing off all their controllers so GPS don't mean **** in the big picture.
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October 30th 07, 02:32 AM
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CNN article on problems in Air Travel, as seen by FAA
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 21:57:20 -0400, JerryLewis
wrote: John Kulp wrote: On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 20:21:51 -0400, "Morgans" wrote: "John Kulp" wrote Gates can be a problem sometime but not runways. The GPS system would handle about 25% more flights on the same runways. Aren't you paying enough all ready for flights? Want to pay more when the politicos are stealing what money is already being paid for? So you are saying, at peak rush times, there is 25% extra time for separation to be maintained? -- Jim in NC GPS allows for closer spacing and straighter flight paths allowing more flights to be handled in the same time span. About 25% more. Not if the FAA ****es off all the controllers and runs them off!! GPS is useless without controllers The FAA is ****ing off all their controllers so GPS don't mean **** in the big picture. Just like your stupid racist rants. Don't mean ****. In any picture.
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October 30th 07, 03:10 AM
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CNN article on problems in Air Travel, as seen by FAA
John Kulp wrote:
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 21:57:20 -0400, JerryLewis wrote: John Kulp wrote: On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 20:21:51 -0400, "Morgans" wrote: "John Kulp" wrote Gates can be a problem sometime but not runways. The GPS system would handle about 25% more flights on the same runways. Aren't you paying enough all ready for flights? Want to pay more when the politicos are stealing what money is already being paid for? So you are saying, at peak rush times, there is 25% extra time for separation to be maintained? -- Jim in NC GPS allows for closer spacing and straighter flight paths allowing more flights to be handled in the same time span. About 25% more. Not if the FAA ****es off all the controllers and runs them off!! GPS is useless without controllers The FAA is ****ing off all their controllers so GPS don't mean **** in the big picture. Just like your stupid racist rants. Don't mean ****. In any picture. Your opinion about me being "racist" is just like an asshole. Everyone has one at it stinks. Including yours.
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October 30th 07, 02:15 AM
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CNN article on problems in Air Travel, as seen by FAA
John Kulp wrote: So you are saying, at peak rush times, there is 25% extra time for separation to be maintained? -- Jim in NC GPS allows for closer spacing and straighter flight paths allowing more flights to be handled in the same time span. About 25% more. GPS does neither.
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October 30th 07, 02:27 AM
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CNN article on problems in Air Travel, as seen by FAA
"John Kulp" wrote GPS allows for closer spacing and straighter flight paths allowing more flights to be handled in the same time span. About 25% more. If they are heavies, the separation for wake turbulence is what the limiting factor for separation, isn't it? -- Jim in NC
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October 30th 07, 03:02 AM
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CNN article on problems in Air Travel, as seen by FAA
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 22:27:34 -0400, "Morgans"
wrote: "John Kulp" wrote GPS allows for closer spacing and straighter flight paths allowing more flights to be handled in the same time span. About 25% more. If they are heavies, the separation for wake turbulence is what the limiting factor for separation, isn't it? Well, wake turbulence is certainly a factor, particularly for the A380 which may slow down things even further. Which raises the question as to whether it should be penalized more than others if they start to use penalties.
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October 30th 07, 01:28 PM
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CNN article on problems in Air Travel, as seen by FAA
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Well, wake turbulence is certainly a factor, particularly for the A380 which may slow down things even further. Which raises the question as to whether it should be penalized more than others if they start to use penalties. If it takes up more of a scarce asset then of course it should pay more.
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October 30th 07, 03:58 PM
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CNN article on problems in Air Travel, as seen by FAA
Morgans wrote: "John Kulp" wrote GPS allows for closer spacing and straighter flight paths allowing more flights to be handled in the same time span. About 25% more. If they are heavies, the separation for wake turbulence is what the limiting factor for separation, isn't it? You need up to six miles behind a heavy. Your spamcan needs four miles behind a large, such as a B737. To say GPS increases available capacity 25% is ludicrous.
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