CNN article on problems in Air Travel, as seen by FAA

John Kulp wrote:
On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 13:09:04 -0500, "Gig 601XL Builder"
wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote:

John Kulp wrote:


Funny none of the airlines I know of are saying this. They are all
advocating just this upgrade and the FAA is going to have it build.
So just what do you know that those running the business don't?

Of course they are saying that. They want GA to pay more and if they
admitted the problems were caused by their own scheduling then they
wouldn't be able to reduce the amount they pay into the system.



Which is completely irrelevant to upgrading the ATC system which is a
GOVERNMENT function for which money as long since been stolen by the
politicos as I said earlier, which, according to estimates, would
increase the capacity by about 25%.


The GPS sats are up there, the aircraft have the GPS receivers in them. What
exactly do you think the FAA is going to have to build?

On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:17:04 -0500, "Gig 601XL Builder"
wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote:

John Kulp wrote:
On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 13:09:04 -0500, "Gig 601XL Builder"
wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote:

John Kulp wrote:


Funny none of the airlines I know of are saying this. They are all
advocating just this upgrade and the FAA is going to have it build.
So just what do you know that those running the business don't?

Of course they are saying that. They want GA to pay more and if they
admitted the problems were caused by their own scheduling then they
wouldn't be able to reduce the amount they pay into the system.



Which is completely irrelevant to upgrading the ATC system which is a
GOVERNMENT function for which money as long since been stolen by the
politicos as I said earlier, which, according to estimates, would
increase the capacity by about 25%.


The GPS sats are up there, the aircraft have the GPS receivers in them. What
exactly do you think the FAA is going to have to build?



It's been all over the news. Here, take a look for yourself

http://www.wired.com/science/discove...ws/2007/10/faa

(John Kulp) wrote in
:

On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:17:04 -0500, "Gig 601XL Builder"
wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote:

John Kulp wrote:
On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 13:09:04 -0500, "Gig 601XL Builder"
wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote:

John Kulp wrote:


Funny none of the airlines I know of are saying this. They are
all advocating just this upgrade and the FAA is going to have it
build. So just what do you know that those running the business
don't?

Of course they are saying that. They want GA to pay more and if
they admitted the problems were caused by their own scheduling then
they wouldn't be able to reduce the amount they pay into the
system.



Which is completely irrelevant to upgrading the ATC system which is
a GOVERNMENT function for which money as long since been stolen by
the politicos as I said earlier, which, according to estimates,
would increase the capacity by about 25%.


The GPS sats are up there, the aircraft have the GPS receivers in
them. What exactly do you think the FAA is going to have to build?



It's been all over the news. Here, take a look for yourself

http://www.wired.com/science/discove...ws/2007/10/faa


You're an idiot, lean to read, fjukktard.



Bertie

Bertie the Bunyip wrote in
:

Bertie - Who do you think is the bigger fjukktard - Mxs or Kulp? Both
seem to by trying real hard for the title of biggest imbecile in the
history of r.a.p., giving even splaps and the fish whose name we no longer
mention a good run for the money.

I think Mxs will probably retain the title, but Kulp is sure closing
the distance between them

A picture of Kulp studying wake turbulance and operational speparation
with GPS can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/2o8f6h

--
Marty Shapiro
Silicon Rallye Inc.

(remove SPAMNOT to email me)

Marty Shapiro wrote in
:

Bertie the Bunyip wrote in
:

Bertie - Who do you think is the bigger fjukktard - Mxs or
Kulp? Both
seem to by trying real hard for the title of biggest imbecile in the
history of r.a.p., giving even splaps and the fish whose name we no
longer mention a good run for the money.



Dunno. Early days yet. I smell a world of promis here though.


I think Mxs will probably retain the title, but Kulp is sure
closing
the distance between them


He's definitely dumb enough,He's also an asshole. I don't see him as KOTM
material yet, but I won't write him off as a contender. A bit of training
and he could be good. Very good.



A picture of Kulp studying wake turbulance and operational
speparation
with GPS can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/2o8f6h


You can't fool me, that's anthony!


Bertie

On Oct 31, 9:04 pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Marty Shapiro wrote :

Bertie the Bunyip wrote in
0:

Bertie - Who do you think is the bigger fjukktard - Mxs or
Kulp? Both
seem to by trying real hard for the title of biggest imbecile in the
history of r.a.p., giving even splaps and the fish whose name we no
longer mention a good run for the money.

But splaps provided a slightly different kind of entertainment
'value', including the following which made it into my 'memorable
quotes file:'

"Are they quality products, or did you have some input in their
design?" - McNicoll to Tarver in rec.aviation.ifr

Interestingly, I can't recall Steve ever responding to Mx. Perhaps
this is a useful datapoint, and could be considered for being a metric
in evaluating rank.

Let's call it the 'too insignificant to bother expending cycles on'
metric.

:P

Dunno. Early days yet. I smell a world of promis here though.

And just when we thought it was safe to go outside

[bobbitzed]


Have a day,

Jon

"Jon" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Oct 31, 9:04 pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Marty Shapiro wrote
:

Bertie the Bunyip wrote in
0:

Bertie - Who do you think is the bigger fjukktard - Mxs or
Kulp? Both
seem to by trying real hard for the title of biggest imbecile in the
history of r.a.p., giving even splaps and the fish whose name we no
longer mention a good run for the money.

But splaps provided a slightly different kind of entertainment
'value', including the following which made it into my 'memorable
quotes file:'

"Are they quality products, or did you have some input in their
design?" - McNicoll to Tarver in rec.aviation.ifr

Interestingly, I can't recall Steve ever responding to Mx. Perhaps
this is a useful datapoint, and could be considered for being a metric
in evaluating rank.

Let's call it the 'too insignificant to bother expending cycles on'
metric.

:P

Dunno. Early days yet. I smell a world of promis here though.

And just when we thought it was safe to go outside

[bobbitzed]


Have a day,

Jon


I agree, something should be said for P1, Temp 0. (Pitot, as in no jets
have 'em)

Al G

On Thu, 01 Nov 2007 00:52:10 GMT, Marty Shapiro
wrote:

Bertie the Bunyip wrote in
0:

Bertie - Who do you think is the bigger fjukktard - Mxs or Kulp? Both
seem to by trying real hard for the title of biggest imbecile in the
history of r.a.p., giving even splaps and the fish whose name we no longer
mention a good run for the money.

I think Mxs will probably retain the title, but Kulp is sure closing
the distance between them

A picture of Kulp studying wake turbulance and operational speparation
with GPS can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/2o8f6h

--
Marty Shapiro
Silicon Rallye Inc.

(remove SPAMNOT to email me)

Now the two cretins speak together. And that stupid picture has only
been around the web for about 10 years now. About as original as your
views on GPS.

John Kulp wrote:


It's been all over the news. Here, take a look for yourself

http://www.wired.com/science/discove...ws/2007/10/faa


If you are going to quote Wired (our slogan: If it sounds like new
technology we will hype it) as a source of aviation technology I'm tapping
out.

On Thu, 1 Nov 2007 09:09:16 -0500, "Gig 601XL Builder"
wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote:

John Kulp wrote:


It's been all over the news. Here, take a look for yourself

http://www.wired.com/science/discove...ws/2007/10/faa


If you are going to quote Wired (our slogan: If it sounds like new
technology we will hype it) as a source of aviation technology I'm tapping
out.



Feel free. Do a google search yourself and you will find plenty. This
is just one I came across.