When to descend II

At the least I would ask the tower if the ROYCE crossing restriction was
deleted.

pgbnh wrote:
Yes, because the issuance of the 'Clear to land' indicates that the traffic
is no longer an issue. I forget the FAR numbers, but I believe my obligation
is to comply with the most recently received directions from ATC. Clear to
land means I am the decision maker on heading and altitude and previous
restrictions and directions no longer apply
"Bee" wrote in message ...

Newps wrote:



pgbnh wrote:


OK, now how does this change if, prior to reaching ROYCE, we are
switched to the tower and Tower says Cessna 123, cleared to land. (The
OP did receive such a clearance, but it was not clear where he was at
the time)Does the altitude restriction still hold?

I would say no, as, to me, 'Cleared to land' means that I am now in
control of my heading and altitude



You are correct.

So, it is now okay to descend into that traffic that you speculated exists
in your early post in this thread?

Not necessary, if the tower wants it they need to restate it.



Bee wrote:

At the least I would ask the tower if the ROYCE crossing restriction was
deleted.

But, I don't know all those controller rules. Is that in the AIM anywhere?

If not, I would exercise my PIC option to seek clarification.

Newps wrote:
Not necessary, if the tower wants it they need to restate it.



Bee wrote:

At the least I would ask the tower if the ROYCE crossing restriction
was deleted.

Bee wrote:
But, I don't know all those controller rules. Is that in the AIM anywhere?

If not, I would exercise my PIC option to seek clarification.



By all means ask if you're unsure. But it's still not necessary. Just
like an approach clearance cancels a speed restriction unless restated
or a descend and maintain clearance cancels a pilot discretion descent.