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They are facing a nuclear-armed USA (and other countries), run by some
idiots that hold "hostile combatants" without trial etc. for undefined time in concentration camps (Gitmo). The issue of enemy combatants is a complicated one when the enemy fights an international, religiously-driven war. The rules of war, so cut and dried when everyone agrees to wear different-colored uniforms, behind a flag, get pretty fuzzy when one side hides behind women and children, and doesn't identify themselves until they pop up holding an RPG. This war is quite different from past wars. Thanks to instant worldwide communication national boundaries mean little. Radical Islamicists span the globe, and carry on the fight without regard to nationality. For the first time in history, an enemy is capable (thanks to this wonderful internet) of carrying on a global war without any kind of traditional force structure. This means that the enemy can be literally *anywhere* -- truly a chilling thought. Gitmo is a POW camp, and POWs are released when the war ends. With one side so diffuse, and no one empowered to sign surrender papers, how do you tell when the war is "over"? Your guess is as good as mine. How can we address the diffuse nature of the enemy? Aside from the removal of Saddam, one of the main purposes of the invasion of Iraq was to concentrate the opposition in one place, under the "flag" of Jihad. While the Left has labeled Iraq a failure for becoming a "spawning ground for terrorists", I believe that this was a deliberate (and quite successful) strategy from the start. Like flies to ****, the terrorists squandered their one true advantage by geographically concentrating themselves so that a traditional military could defeat them. Of course, there are signs that they are starting to realize their mistake. The current dramatic drop in violence in Iraq illustrates that the enemy is no longer willing to confront the military head-to- head, and may simply be melting back into the landscape. It also may illustrate that the enemy has finally realized that all they really have to do is wait till November 2008, and they will be able to march into the Green Zone unopposed. Much like the Viet Cong in 1974, all they have to do is wait for the US to retreat. (In case you don't know, by 1975 the Viet Cong had renamed Saigon -- the former capital of South Vietnam, "Ho Chi Minh City".) Not that I would expect you to appreciate or understand the often subtle nature of this worldwide conflict, but you really need to think a LITTLE before you post. The issues are never as cut and dried as you apparently believe. -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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Jay,
The current dramatic drop in violence in Iraq The what??? -- Thomas Borchert (EDDH) |
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Thomas Borchert wrote:
Jay, The current dramatic drop in violence in Iraq The what??? So now you are not only a knee-jerk European America hater but you have reading comprehension problems as well. He said, "The current dramatic drop in violence in Iraq" http://www.reuters.com/article/middl.../idUSCOL248131 By Aseel Kami BAGHDAD, Oct 22 (Reuters) - Violence in Iraq has dropped by 70 percent since the end of June, when U.S. forces completed their build-up of 30,000 extra troops to stabilise the war-torn country, the Interior Ministry said on Monday. |
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Gig,
So now you are not only a knee-jerk European America hater Jeeze, guys, I thought you came from the land of the free and all. Can't we have an interesting discussion about this without throwing personal insults? Kind of degrades your arguments if you start doing that as soon as someone ventures a different opinion. You don't remotely know me enough to be able to make that statement above. And it's a typical knee-jerk ugly American redneck reaction of you, too ;-) ...the Interior Ministry said on Monday. Gee, I guess that's a truly objective and trustworthy source who would have nothing to gain from coming to that conclusion, right? -- Thomas Borchert (EDDH) |
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Thomas Borchert wrote:
Gig, So now you are not only a knee-jerk European America hater Jeeze, guys, I thought you came from the land of the free and all. Can't we have an interesting discussion about this without throwing personal insults? Kind of degrades your arguments if you start doing that as soon as someone ventures a different opinion. You don't remotely know me enough to be able to make that statement above. And it's a typical knee-jerk ugly American redneck reaction of you, too ;-) I don't know you at all except for what you have wrtitten here. Your posts when they are aviation related are ususally right on. But give you the slight opening for a chance to make a negative comment about the US and you jump on it every time. That is my definition of knee-jerk. ...the Interior Ministry said on Monday. Gee, I guess that's a truly objective and trustworthy source who would have nothing to gain from coming to that conclusion, right? Reuters is anti-american enough for you? How about this. http://icasualties.org/oif_a/CasualtyTrends.htm |
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The problem is that the majority of Americans who write here are right
wing "right or wrong my country" "screw all foreigners" types. That observation is not anti-US, it's anti-bigotry. If you were all a bit more moderate there wouldn't be an urge to jump on it every time. We know there are moderate Americans around, but they aren't writing here. That would be funny if it weren't so sad. -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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("Thomas Borchert" wrote)
You don't remotely know me enough to be able to make that statement above. And it's a typical knee-jerk ugly American redneck reaction of you, too ;-) No need to start slinging the "r" word around. Montblack :-) |
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"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote in
: Thomas Borchert wrote: Jay, The current dramatic drop in violence in Iraq The what??? So now you are not only a knee-jerk European America hater but you have reading comprehension problems as well. He said, "The current dramatic drop in violence in Iraq" Didn't rain today, must be the start of a drought. Bertie |
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Thomas Borchert wrote in
: Jay, The current dramatic drop in violence in Iraq The what??? The violence has decreased slightly. "The current dramatic drop" thing is Bush-ese for "we're gonna win this thing" Bertie |
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![]() "Bertie the Bunyip" wrote The violence has decreased slightly. "The current dramatic drop" thing is Bush-ese for "we're gonna win this thing" Numbers support the lessening violence, and they are not Bush (or anyone else) driven propaganda. Fact is, there have been less US and civilian deaths, country wide, for the past month. A good number less. -- Jim in NC |
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