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Old November 8th 07, 10:25 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bob Noel
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Default New GA Security System at KFRG

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"Marco Leon" wrote:

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Is Massport taking over FRG?


No, but Hanscom was referred to quite a bit. From what I understand, this is
the first large implementation since the handful of airports (i.e. Massport
airports) were done soon after 9-11.


The only reference that should be made to Massport is wrt how not
to do it.

Somehow Massport can't stop losing money when charging hangar rates
almost twice those at other MA airports. This is the organization you want
having any involvement in running an airport?

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Old November 9th 07, 03:00 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Marco Leon
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Default New GA Security System at KFRG

"Bob Noel" wrote in message
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The only reference that should be made to Massport is wrt how not
to do it.

Somehow Massport can't stop losing money when charging hangar rates
almost twice those at other MA airports. This is the organization you
want
having any involvement in running an airport?


Are you based at BED? Republic airport's mgmt keeps referring to them as the
working model. It would be good to get a point of view by someone with a
view "under the hood" so to speak. FRG is run by the same folks the run
Teterboro so the fear is that small aircraft will be methodically pushed out
in favor of biz jets.

Marco


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Old December 1st 07, 08:53 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Owen[_1_]
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Default New GA Security System at KFRG

Marco Leon wrote:
"Bob Noel" wrote in message
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The only reference that should be made to Massport is wrt how not
to do it.

Somehow Massport can't stop losing money when charging hangar rates
almost twice those at other MA airports. This is the organization you
want
having any involvement in running an airport?


Are you based at BED? Republic airport's mgmt keeps referring to them as the
working model. It would be good to get a point of view by someone with a
view "under the hood" so to speak. FRG is run by the same folks the run
Teterboro so the fear is that small aircraft will be methodically pushed out
in favor of biz jets.

Marco



I knew Teterboro is run by the Port Authority of NY/NJ, I was unaware
that the same runs FRG.

Farmingdale is (was) a great field with at least one decent FBO. LG
Hanscom is a great field severely hampered by an overzealous and
incompetent state port authority owner. It would be a terrible shame to
see Farmingdale adopt the stupid (and largely useless) measures that
Hanscom has done. This includes the propeller locks (which do nothing
except risk damage by wind and inexperience pilots), and very expensive
badges (don't have a badge? you can be escorted. Have a badge but it is
somewhere else? you can't be escorted on pain of many $$ thousands of
dollar fines.) It is also amusing that at BOS the same Mass Port
Authority requires GA people to go through metal detectors to get to
their GA plane.

Last time I checked, Massport wanted a substantial fee and your social
security # to get one of their badges. I would never trust my social
security number to those clowns. The port authority is actually a very
large collection of patronage hacks that do not know the difference
between effective measures and pointless burdens on the damned
citizens/taxpayers. I have heard that Mass Port tries to enforce their
rules (as a quasi-state agency, they can make their own legal
regulations) on the military / Air Force ramp via the state police. I
was unaware that any tinhat state agency had jurisdiction on military
property.

This is sad news that anyone would hold Mass Port Authority to be a
"model" for anything, except a case study in incompetence.


 




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