Such language!

On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 02:33:01 GMT, Jerry Springer
wrote:

So what is the history of this? It looks to me like it was staged.
the camera starts panning out and then pans to the right before
the airplane ever gets to the reporter.

I'd like to find the original story. "To me" it appears it was
staged, but the reporter wasn't in on the "punch line":-))

Roger (K8RI)


Roger Halstead (K8RI EN73 & ARRL Life Member)
www.rogerhalstead.com
N833R World's oldest Debonair? (S# CD-2)

On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 03:20:36 GMT, sean trost
wrote:

yer sadistic.....grin.
Well I can tell you this, I believe that had I been about 50 meters
north of where I was I would most likely be tumbled like billy bob. The
Gust I caught was quite fierce.

Sean

Morgans wrote:
"sean trost" wrote in message
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wingtip vortices.

all the best
Sean Trost



So are you saying you enjoyed it? g

I always wondered how much they would push a person around.

Did you see the movie, "Pushing Tin"? The person in that, relieves some
stress (or something) by standing right at the end of a runway while heavies
are landing. It shows him getting the sh*t knocked out of him, resulting in
several cartwheels. I wonder how true that is.

Have you ever seen that training film on jet blast?
As I recall there is a (looks like a 707) would up with brakes locked,
or tied down. A truck drives by maybe 10 to 150 feet behind it. The
whole truck gets, not only blown over, but tumbles across the tarmac
and into the water.

It's a WMV file and I think I have a copy of it around here some
where.

Roger Halstead (K8RI EN73 & ARRL Life Member)
www.rogerhalstead.com
N833R World's oldest Debonair? (S# CD-2)

--
Jim in NC

On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 04:49:27 GMT, "Eric Miller"
wrote:

"Morgans" wrote
I always wondered how much they would push a person around.

Take a look at this staged demonstration of jet blast
http://www.bobnorris.com/library/fod5.mpg

And I just posted a question if any one had seen this.
I guess I gotta read the whole thread before posting...This is the
clip I was talking about.

Roger Halstead (K8RI EN73 & ARRL Life Member)
www.rogerhalstead.com
N833R World's oldest Debonair? (S# CD-2)

Granted not the same thing, but I'd think jet blast would be LESS than being
under a heavy.
And even if it wasn't... you weigh a lot less than the truck in the video.

Eric

"Roger Halstead" wrote in message
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On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 04:49:27 GMT, "Eric Miller"
wrote:

"Morgans" wrote
I always wondered how much they would push a person around.

Take a look at this staged demonstration of jet blast
http://www.bobnorris.com/library/fod5.mpg

And I just posted a question if any one had seen this.
I guess I gotta read the whole thread before posting...This is the
clip I was talking about.

Roger Halstead (K8RI EN73 & ARRL Life Member)


I don't think you could compare jet blast and tip vortices, could you?
--
Jim in NC

"Morgans" wrote
I don't think you could compare jet blast and tip vortices, could you?

Well, they have to compare somehow. The jet blast generates lift through the
mechanism of the wing. So total downwash should equal, approximate, or at
least be related to jet blast. Granted, jet blast is probably more
concentrated, while downwash is spread over a larger area.

More importantly... I just needed the slightest excuse to post that mpg big
grin

Eric

On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 23:19:59 -0400, David O
wrote:


Roger Halstead wrote:

I'd like to find the original story. "To me" it appears it was
staged, but the reporter wasn't in on the "punch line":-))

Roger (K8RI)

Oh for goodness sakes, of course the damn thing was staged and of
course the reporter knew about it. What the reporter wasn't ready for
was how loud and how low. Sheesh.

I think I just said that.:-))

Roger

Roger Halstead (K8RI EN73 & ARRL Life Member)
www.rogerhalstead.com
N833R World's oldest Debonair? (S# CD-2)

Have you ever seen that training film on jet blast?
As I recall there is a (looks like a 707) would up with brakes locked,
or tied down. A truck drives by maybe 10 to 150 feet behind it. The
whole truck gets, not only blown over, but tumbles across the tarmac
and into the water.

I used to do engine runs on C-130s. Late at night the SPs would get careless
and drive 20 or 30 feet in front of us. It is truly amazing what max reverse on
all four can do to a cop car especially when the poor guy in the car is not
paying attention.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 12:43:03 -0400, "Ron Natalie" wrote:

I used to do engine runs on C-130s. Late at night the SPs would get careless
and drive 20 or 30 feet in front of us. It is truly amazing what max reverse on
all four can do to a cop car especially when the poor guy in the car is not
paying attention.

We had a club Cessna 150 flipped over by a C-130 which ran it's engine up
(despite the 150 coordinating with the tower and the tower coordinating
with the 130 that he'd keep them at idle). It was nicely flipped upside
down. Pilot was OK, until he released his seat belt in the inverted
position. Oddly enough, I told that story at some time to my kids.
When they were in a roll over (automobile) accident, Ian said he remembered
the story and was careful to brace himself before he undid the seatbelt.

About five years ago, I brought my Fly Baby to an airport day at Boeing
Field. See:

http://www.wanttaja.com/flybaby/b-17.jpg

Anyway, there were two Army Chinooks parked about 150 feet from the
homebuilt line. When the first one fired up and taxied out, I pointed the
nose of my Fly Baby towards it and lifted the tail off the ground to a
level flight attitude. But it really wasn't too bad.

But when the SECOND one started...he lifted off the ground and just hovered
there. I had the tailwheel of my plane at shoulder level (giving me a
negative angle of attack) and the 'Baby was STILL rocking back and forth
between the main gear tires....

Ron Wanttaja