$98 per barrel oil

Do you have any cite for this? Nothing I can find nor anything I've heard
of before supports this. ( That West Germany paid for US Military )

John

"Wolfgang Schwanke" wrote in message
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Jay Honeck wrote in news:1194886120.503835.134330@
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They started building their welfare system in the late 19th/early 20th
century. At that time they were still comparatively poor as their
economies were mostly agricultural. They got rich after WW2, and used
that money to massively expand their welfare systems. The expansion
stopped with the recessions in the 1990s and 2000s, so did the tax
rises. Their budgets are now at equilibrium, and the economy is going
strong once again.

The Western European welfare economies could only exist because they
lived under the umbrella of America's protection from the Soviet
Union.

Bollox. If it were true they'd have collapsed in 1990.

Not having to spend money on self-defense is a wonderful thing,
but don't count on it lasting for too many more "generations"

You may not be aware of this, but the European countries do have their
own military and they pay for it themselves. Did you also know that the
costs of the American military in West Berlin (where I live) was payed
by the West German government?

Regards

--
AFN from USA, BFBS UK OK

http://www.wschwanke.de/ usenet_20031215 (AT) wschwanke (DOT) de

"news.verizon.net" wrote in
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Do you have any cite for this? Nothing I can find nor anything
I've heard of before supports this. ( That West Germany paid for
US Military )

Armies Of Occupation are supported by the country being occupied. I
served as a US Army Color Photolab Technician (1960-1962) and all of
our equipment and supplies were provided by the West Germans.

--

"John Godwin" wrote in message
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"news.verizon.net" wrote in
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Do you have any cite for this? Nothing I can find nor anything
I've heard of before supports this. ( That West Germany paid for
US Military )

Armies Of Occupation are supported by the country being occupied. I
served as a US Army Color Photolab Technician (1960-1962) and all of
our equipment and supplies were provided by the West Germans.

Assuming that is true, that is a small part of the cost for maintaining a
military presence.

Who paid for the tanks, anti-aircraft missiles, aircraft, trucks, jeeps,
personnel transports, military member's pay, and the list could go on.

Not the country who was putting us up. Uncle Sam; (the US) that's where all
of the money came from.
--
Jim in NC

The West German government paid for ALL of the occupation costs in West
Berlin of the US, UK and France.

Wrong.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Jay Honeck wrote in
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The West German government paid for ALL of the occupation costs
in West Berlin of the US, UK and France.

Wrong.

Actually, they did.

--

Wolfgang Schwanke wrote:
"Morgans" wrote in
:

"John Godwin" wrote in message
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"news.verizon.net" wrote in
news:yH5_i.4198$cD.2577@trndny08:

Do you have any cite for this? Nothing I can find nor anything
I've heard of before supports this. ( That West Germany paid for
US Military )
Armies Of Occupation are supported by the country being occupied. I
served as a US Army Color Photolab Technician (1960-1962) and all of
our equipment and supplies were provided by the West Germans.

Assuming that is true, that is a small part of the cost for
maintaining a military presence.

Who paid for the tanks, anti-aircraft missiles, aircraft, trucks,
jeeps, personnel transports, military member's pay, and the list could
go on.

Not the country who was putting us up. Uncle Sam; (the US) that's
where all of the money came from.

The West German government paid for ALL of the occupation costs in West
Berlin of the US, UK and France.

They paid for all of the R&D for all of the equipment? Really???

Matt

Matt Whiting wrote in news:52p_i.783$2n4.24268
@news1.epix.net:

Wolfgang Schwanke wrote:
"Morgans" wrote in
:

"John Godwin" wrote in message
...
"news.verizon.net" wrote in
news:yH5_i.4198$cD.2577@trndny08:

Do you have any cite for this? Nothing I can find nor anything
I've heard of before supports this. ( That West Germany paid for
US Military )
Armies Of Occupation are supported by the country being occupied.
I
served as a US Army Color Photolab Technician (1960-1962) and all
of
our equipment and supplies were provided by the West Germans.

Assuming that is true, that is a small part of the cost for
maintaining a military presence.

Who paid for the tanks, anti-aircraft missiles, aircraft, trucks,
jeeps, personnel transports, military member's pay, and the list
could
go on.

Not the country who was putting us up. Uncle Sam; (the US) that's
where all of the money came from.

The West German government paid for ALL of the occupation costs in
West
Berlin of the US, UK and France.

They paid for all of the R&D for all of the equipment? Really???


Parsimonious fjukkwit.



Bertie

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Matt Whiting wrote in news:52p_i.783$2n4.24268
@news1.epix.net:

Wolfgang Schwanke wrote:
"Morgans" wrote in
:

"John Godwin" wrote in message
...
"news.verizon.net" wrote in
news:yH5_i.4198$cD.2577@trndny08:

Do you have any cite for this? Nothing I can find nor anything
I've heard of before supports this. ( That West Germany paid for
US Military )
Armies Of Occupation are supported by the country being occupied.
I
served as a US Army Color Photolab Technician (1960-1962) and all
of
our equipment and supplies were provided by the West Germans.

Assuming that is true, that is a small part of the cost for
maintaining a military presence.

Who paid for the tanks, anti-aircraft missiles, aircraft, trucks,
jeeps, personnel transports, military member's pay, and the list
could
go on.

Not the country who was putting us up. Uncle Sam; (the US) that's
where all of the money came from.
The West German government paid for ALL of the occupation costs in
West
Berlin of the US, UK and France.
They paid for all of the R&D for all of the equipment? Really???


Parsimonious fjukkwit.

I see you have ceded the debate.

Matt

Matt Whiting wrote in news:%yp_i.787$2n4.24324
@news1.epix.net:

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Matt Whiting wrote in news:52p_i.783$2n4.24268
@news1.epix.net:

Wolfgang Schwanke wrote:
"Morgans" wrote in
:

"John Godwin" wrote in message
...
"news.verizon.net" wrote in
news:yH5_i.4198$cD.2577@trndny08:

Do you have any cite for this? Nothing I can find nor anything
I've heard of before supports this. ( That West Germany paid for
US Military )
Armies Of Occupation are supported by the country being occupied.
I
served as a US Army Color Photolab Technician (1960-1962) and all
of
our equipment and supplies were provided by the West Germans.

Assuming that is true, that is a small part of the cost for
maintaining a military presence.

Who paid for the tanks, anti-aircraft missiles, aircraft, trucks,
jeeps, personnel transports, military member's pay, and the list
could
go on.

Not the country who was putting us up. Uncle Sam; (the US) that's
where all of the money came from.
The West German government paid for ALL of the occupation costs in
West
Berlin of the US, UK and France.
They paid for all of the R&D for all of the equipment? Really???


Parsimonious fjukkwit.

I see you have ceded the debate.


Oh yes, you win.

Thank god you're there to look after me, that's what I say.




Bertie

Matt Whiting writes:

They paid for all of the R&D for all of the equipment? Really???

Which equipment? R&D isn't an occupation cost unless it was dedicated
exclusively to something used only for the occupation. What might that have
been?