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"news.verizon.net" wrote in
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Do you have any cite for this? Nothing I can find nor anything
I've heard of before supports this. ( That West Germany paid for
US Military )

Armies Of Occupation are supported by the country being occupied. I
served as a US Army Color Photolab Technician (1960-1962) and all of
our equipment and supplies were provided by the West Germans.

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"John Godwin" wrote in message
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"news.verizon.net" wrote in
news:yH5_i.4198$cD.2577@trndny08:

Do you have any cite for this? Nothing I can find nor anything
I've heard of before supports this. ( That West Germany paid for
US Military )

Armies Of Occupation are supported by the country being occupied. I
served as a US Army Color Photolab Technician (1960-1962) and all of
our equipment and supplies were provided by the West Germans.

Assuming that is true, that is a small part of the cost for maintaining a
military presence.

Who paid for the tanks, anti-aircraft missiles, aircraft, trucks, jeeps,
personnel transports, military member's pay, and the list could go on.

Not the country who was putting us up. Uncle Sam; (the US) that's where all
of the money came from.
--
Jim in NC

"Wolfgang Schwanke" wrote in message
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Jay Honeck wrote in
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Or did you think that the money to build your nice welfare state
simply grew on trees?

It comes from our national economies.

Which are based on...what?

"John Godwin" wrote in message
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"news.verizon.net" wrote in
news:yH5_i.4198$cD.2577@trndny08:

Do you have any cite for this? Nothing I can find nor anything
I've heard of before supports this. ( That West Germany paid for
US Military )

Armies Of Occupation are supported by the country being occupied. I
served as a US Army Color Photolab Technician (1960-1962) and all of
our equipment and supplies were provided by the West Germans.

Probably because Germany has long been known for their good photographic
equipment and optics.

FYI, the US ceased being an "Occupier" in the early 1950's, long before you
got there.

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
ups.com...
Bollox. If it were true they'd have collapsed in 1990.

Not having to spend money on self-defense is a wonderful thing,
but don't count on it lasting for too many more "generations"

You may not be aware of this, but the European countries do have their
own military and they pay for it themselves. Did you also know that the
costs of the American military in West Berlin (where I live) was payed
by the West German government?

Horse hockey. Take a look at the percentage of GDP that went into
military spending from 1950 - 1999, United States versus Europe. The
US carried Europe through the 20th century (when we weren't beating
the crap out of you), all the way throught the Cold War, and we're now
carrying you into this new, even more dangerous War on Terror.

Jay, the proper response is to compare the European militaries, which
roughly equates to one division of boy scouts and two platoons of girl
scouts.

Do you have any information about who paid for the equipment, regardless of
country of origin?


"Matt W. Barrow" wrote in message
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"John Godwin" wrote in message
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"news.verizon.net" wrote in
news:yH5_i.4198$cD.2577@trndny08:

Do you have any cite for this? Nothing I can find nor anything
I've heard of before supports this. ( That West Germany paid for
US Military )

Armies Of Occupation are supported by the country being occupied. I
served as a US Army Color Photolab Technician (1960-1962) and all of
our equipment and supplies were provided by the West Germans.

Probably because Germany has long been known for their good photographic
equipment and optics.

FYI, the US ceased being an "Occupier" in the early 1950's, long before
you got there.

"Matt W. Barrow" wrote in
:

FYI, the US ceased being an "Occupier" in the early 1950's, long
before you got there.

FYI, you're wrong. I was awarded the Army Occupation Medal. Berlin
was still an occupied city long after I served there.




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Jay Honeck wrote in news:1194898323.171502.208520@
22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com:

The Western European welfare economies could only exist because they
lived under the umbrella of America's protection from the Soviet
Union.

Jeeze, Jay, you really ARE funny.

I wish it *were* funny. Do the math, and see what the US spent on
defense throughout the 1960s, '70s and '80s. Then take a look at what
Europe spent on its own defense.

Or did you think that the money to build your nice welfare state
simply grew on trees?

Sometimes I wish we had just let Europe rot in the 20th century. It's
hard to imagine what the wealth of our country would be today, had
that occurred.

You'd be speaking Russian, but I guess that's a small price to pay,
eh?
--

Your ignorance of just about everything is breathtaking.


Bertie

"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote in
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Jay Honeck wrote:
The Western European welfare economies could only exist because
they lived under the umbrella of America's protection from the
Soviet Union.

Jeeze, Jay, you really ARE funny.

I wish it *were* funny. Do the math, and see what the US spent on
defense throughout the 1960s, '70s and '80s. Then take a look at
what Europe spent on its own defense.

Or did you think that the money to build your nice welfare state
simply grew on trees?

Sometimes I wish we had just let Europe rot in the 20th century.
It's hard to imagine what the wealth of our country would be today,
had that occurred.

You'd be speaking Russian, but I guess that's a small price to pay,
eh?

Jay I fully understand your feelings on this an somewhat agree with
you. BUT, had we not defended Europe in the last half of the 20th
century yes they would have been speaking Russian and we would have
had a MUCH larger and richer USSR to deal with and I doubt that would
have been pretty.




Nope, none of that would have happened.


Bertie

"Matt W. Barrow" wrote in
:


"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote in message
...
Jay Honeck wrote:
The Western European welfare economies could only exist because
they lived under the umbrella of America's protection from the
Soviet Union.

Jeeze, Jay, you really ARE funny.

I wish it *were* funny. Do the math, and see what the US spent on
defense throughout the 1960s, '70s and '80s. Then take a look at
what Europe spent on its own defense.

Or did you think that the money to build your nice welfare state
simply grew on trees?

Sometimes I wish we had just let Europe rot in the 20th century.
It's hard to imagine what the wealth of our country would be today,
had that occurred.

You'd be speaking Russian, but I guess that's a small price to pay,
eh?

Jay I fully understand your feelings on this an somewhat agree with
you. BUT, had we not defended Europe in the last half of the 20th
century yes they would have been speaking Russian and we would have
had a MUCH larger and richer USSR to deal with and I doubt that would
have been pretty.
I understand YOUR feeling and agree in part, but the idea that with
Europe in their pocket that the USSR would have been richer is
absolutely silly. MOF, it would have probably collapsed much sooner as
they overextended themselves even with their more limited empire.


Pretty much.


Bertie