Keep Bashing France

For the Iraq biological and chemical weapons programs, look to Germany
and France who sold them most of their equipment.

and US not ??? open your eyes

http://www.commondreams.org/views02/0802-01.htm

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story...866942,00.html

http://www.kvinnonet.org/war/WarCriminals3.html

http://www.topos.org/rumsfeld.html

but may be all this inforamtions are false and sure i'm a poor victim of
horrible manipulation.


Franck

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"Franck" wrote in message
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For the Iraq biological and chemical weapons programs, look to Germany
and France who sold them most of their equipment.

and US not ??? open your eyes

http://www.commondreams.org/views02/0802-01.htm

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story...866942,00.html

http://www.kvinnonet.org/war/WarCriminals3.html

http://www.topos.org/rumsfeld.html

but may be all this inforamtions are false and sure i'm a poor victim of
horrible manipulation.

Franck

There really isn't any point in arguing here. This is a guy who believes all
criticism of the USA is tantamount to communist propaganda. He also believes
that the situation in Iraq is currently getting better day by day, and that
anyone who says different is a lefty propagandist. It just isn't worth it.

(OT: I wonder if Rumsfeld himself is aware of just how evil he looks, as a
former Saddam kisser?)

John

I'm aggre with you John. I hope one day they will open their eyes

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In article ,
"John Mullen" wrote:

There really isn't any point in arguing here. This is a guy who believes all
criticism of the USA is tantamount to communist propaganda.

No, it's just "a guy" who keeps reading some very badly written stories
that claim the opposite of what's actually happening in this case.

He also believes that the situation in Iraq is currently getting
better day by day,

On the other hand, since we have actual evidence that things in Iraq
*are* getting better every day, the burden is on you to prove otherwise.

and that anyone who says different is a lefty propagandist.

Well, in this case, it's more that the folks who fell for some of these
stories are pretty far left-wing (when you see sources like Common
Dreams, it's far left bordering on the Socialist at *best*).

And calling some of those sites "propagandists" is being kind.

It just isn't worth it.

Of course it's worth it. You might actually learn something some day.
Such as "you need better news sources."

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"Chad Irby" wrote in message
m...
In article ,
"John Mullen" wrote:

There really isn't any point in arguing here. This is a guy who believes
all
criticism of the USA is tantamount to communist propaganda.

No, it's just "a guy" who keeps reading some very badly written stories
that claim the opposite of what's actually happening in this case.

'Actually' meaning 'in your opinion, unsupported by any facts'

He also believes that the situation in Iraq is currently getting
better day by day,

On the other hand, since we have actual evidence that things in Iraq
*are* getting better every day, the burden is on you to prove otherwise.

'Actual' meaning 'in your opinion, unsupported by any facts'

and that anyone who says different is a lefty propagandist.

Well, in this case, it's more that the folks who fell for some of these
stories are pretty far left-wing (when you see sources like Common
Dreams, it's far left bordering on the Socialist at *best*).

And calling some of those sites "propagandists" is being kind.

It just isn't worth it.

Of course it's worth it. You might actually learn something some day.
Such as "you need better news sources."

I might. I doubt if you will though. Sigh.

John

In article ,
"Franck" wrote:

For the Iraq biological and chemical weapons programs, look to Germany
and France who sold them most of their equipment.

and US not ??? open your eyes

http://www.commondreams.org/views02/0802-01.htm

Nothing in that story about selling equipment for the Iraq chemical
weapons program.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story...866942,00.html

The "materials" we sold them were *pesticides* for agricultural use.

"Furthermore, in 1988, the Dow Chemical company sold $1.5m-worth
(£930,000) of pesticides to Iraq despite suspicions they would be used
for chemical warfare."

They weren't, of course. They were *pesticides*, and not suited for use
against people.

No chemical weapons production materials or equipment. The anthrax
samples were from the American Type Culture Collection, and have been
sold for preparing vaccines since the 1920s.

http://www.kvinnonet.org/war/WarCriminals3.html

Nothing in this one about any suggested sales of chemical or biological
warfare production equipment.

http://www.topos.org/rumsfeld.html

Ditto here.

but may be all this inforamtions are false and sure i'm a poor victim of
horrible manipulation.

No, you're just a victim of doing a search for "chemical weapons iraq
United States" and pasting it into your post without actually reading
your "sources."

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Of course my dear. May be you live on the parallel world but sure we don't
live on the same world

http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2002/12/48877.html

Sure mister DR meet Saddam Hussein only to take a cup of tea and discuss
about the last Scharzy movie

Excuse me for the offense to the honorable Mister Mickey Rumsfeld

another examples :

http://www.globalpolicy.org/security...sseinindex.htm

http://www.globalpolicy.org/security...1231rumsfeld.h
tm

The US provided less conventional military equipment than British or German
companies but it did allow the export of biological agents, including
anthrax; vital ingredients for chemical weapons; and cluster bombs sold by
a CIA front organisation in Chile, the report says.

Howard Teicher, an Iraq specialist in the Reagan White House, testified in
a 1995 affidavit that the then CIA director, William Casey, used a Chilean
firm, Cardoen, to send cluster bombs to use against Iran's "human wave"
attacks.

A 1994 congressional inquiry also found that dozens of biological agents,
including various strains of anthrax, had been shipped to Iraq by US
companies, under licence from the commerce department.

sure only for pesticide !!

Furthermore, in 1988, the Dow Chemical company sold $1.5m-worth (£930,000)
of pesticides to Iraq despite suspicions they would be used for chemical
warfare.

only for pesticide

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