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Ultimate Biplane crash in Ossipee. NH (N38PC)



 
 
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Old November 15th 07, 12:45 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Martin X. Moleski, SJ
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Default Ultimate Biplane crash in Ossipee. NH (N38PC)

On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:45:24 -0500, "Morgans" wrote in :

"Richard Riley" wrote

WAS
THE PILOT EJECTED

^
In as much as the driver of a car can be thrown out of a rolling wrecked
car, and be reported as ejected, the same musta' happened for this pilot,
but obviously without an ejection seat.


So, from our point of view, it is an inaccurate description, but it would be
totally accurate to the majority of the public.


Richard's suggested change to the text (from "ejected" to "was ejected")
fits LD's description of what happened perfectly and matches your
analysis.

I've listened to his 11-minute interview several times. He speaks
as if he didn't have to do anything to get out of the plane.
Once he released his seat belts, he seems to have been thrown out
without any effort on his part.

Marty
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Old November 15th 07, 04:00 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Ron Wanttaja
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Default Ultimate Biplane crash in Ossipee. NH (N38PC)

On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 19:45:16 -0500, "Martin X. Moleski, SJ"
wrote:

On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:45:24 -0500, "Morgans" wrote in :

"Richard Riley" wrote

WAS
THE PILOT EJECTED

^
In as much as the driver of a car can be thrown out of a rolling wrecked
car, and be reported as ejected, the same musta' happened for this pilot,
but obviously without an ejection seat.


So, from our point of view, it is an inaccurate description, but it would be
totally accurate to the majority of the public.


Richard's suggested change to the text (from "ejected" to "was ejected")
fits LD's description of what happened perfectly and matches your
analysis.


I'd expect it from a typical media source, but the "PILOT WAS EJECTED" quote was
from the FAA accident report. Figured those guys would know better....

Ron Wanttaja
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Old November 15th 07, 04:02 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Ron Wanttaja
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Default Ultimate Biplane crash in Ossipee. NH (N38PC)

On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 19:45:16 -0500, "Martin X. Moleski, SJ"
wrote:

WAS
THE PILOT EJECTED

^
In as much as the driver of a car can be thrown out of a rolling wrecked
car, and be reported as ejected, the same musta' happened for this pilot,
but obviously without an ejection seat.


So, from our point of view, it is an inaccurate description, but it would be
totally accurate to the majority of the public.


Richard's suggested change to the text (from "ejected" to "was ejected")
fits LD's description of what happened perfectly and matches your
analysis.

I've listened to his 11-minute interview several times. He speaks
as if he didn't have to do anything to get out of the plane.
Once he released his seat belts, he seems to have been thrown out
without any effort on his part.


I'd expect it from a typical media source, but the "THE PILOT EJECTED" quote was
from the FAA accident report. Figured those guys would know better....

Ron Wanttaja
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Old November 15th 07, 09:04 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_19_]
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Default Ultimate Biplane crash in Ossipee. NH (N38PC)

Ron Wanttaja wrote in
:

On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 19:45:16 -0500, "Martin X. Moleski, SJ"
wrote:

WAS
THE PILOT EJECTED
^
In as much as the driver of a car can be thrown out of a rolling
wrecked car, and be reported as ejected, the same musta' happened
for this pilot, but obviously without an ejection seat.


So, from our point of view, it is an inaccurate description, but it
would be totally accurate to the majority of the public.


Richard's suggested change to the text (from "ejected" to "was
ejected") fits LD's description of what happened perfectly and
matches your analysis.

I've listened to his 11-minute interview several times. He speaks
as if he didn't have to do anything to get out of the plane.
Once he released his seat belts, he seems to have been thrown out
without any effort on his part.


I'd expect it from a typical media source, but the "THE PILOT EJECTED"
quote was from the FAA accident report. Figured those guys would know
better....



Well, if he was flung out of the airplane, it's accurate.


Bertie
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Old November 15th 07, 11:06 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Tina
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Default Ultimate Biplane crash in Ossipee. NH (N38PC)

"the pilot was ejected" is how one might describe getting thrown from
a car as well, whereas just "the pilot ejected" would suggest the
pilot had an active role, as in causing his seat to eject him.

The important thing, of course, is the pilot is not part of the rubble
that used to be an airplane.

On Nov 15, 4:04 am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Ron Wanttaja wrote :





On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 19:45:16 -0500, "Martin X. Moleski, SJ"
wrote:


WAS
THE PILOT EJECTED
^
In as much as the driver of a car can be thrown out of a rolling
wrecked car, and be reported as ejected, the same musta' happened
for this pilot, but obviously without an ejection seat.


So, from our point of view, it is an inaccurate description, but it
would be totally accurate to the majority of the public.


Richard's suggested change to the text (from "ejected" to "was
ejected") fits LD's description of what happened perfectly and
matches your analysis.


I've listened to his 11-minute interview several times. He speaks
as if he didn't have to do anything to get out of the plane.
Once he released his seat belts, he seems to have been thrown out
without any effort on his part.


I'd expect it from a typical media source, but the "THE PILOT EJECTED"
quote was from the FAA accident report. Figured those guys would know
better....


Well, if he was flung out of the airplane, it's accurate.

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Old November 15th 07, 11:35 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_19_]
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Default Ultimate Biplane crash in Ossipee. NH (N38PC)

Tina wrote in
:

"the pilot was ejected" is how one might describe getting thrown from
a car as well, whereas just "the pilot ejected" would suggest the
pilot had an active role, as in causing his seat to eject him.


Exactly, but what I was alluding to is the fact that the term "ejection
seat" didn't arrive out of thin air. Far from suggesting one or the other,
the precise wording either way would do more than suggest, it would define
what happened.


Bertie
 




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