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Wolfgang Schwanke wrote:
"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote in : The situation was symmetrical, i.e. from their POV the Warsaw Pact thought they were "protecting" themselves from an imminent attack by NATO. Really, you think so? See for example "Able Archer" 1983 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Able_Archer_83 It was a NATO military exercise, but the Soviets misinterpreted it as a camouflaged preparation for a nuclear attack by the west on them! They would never have had the idea if they'd thought the west was merely defending itself. I love revisionist history. Reality isn't black and white. Both sides were wrestling with each other for territory worldwide. There were hawks and doves on both sides, and strategists on both sides thought of themselves as "the better one". This is not an excuse of communist dictatorships BTW. Regards Yes, the Reagan administration did an excellent job of screwing with the USSR's head. It one of the reasons there is no longer a wall dividing your country and no longer a USSR. |
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"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote in
: Wolfgang Schwanke wrote: "Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote in : The situation was symmetrical, i.e. from their POV the Warsaw Pact thought they were "protecting" themselves from an imminent attack by NATO. Really, you think so? See for example "Able Archer" 1983 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Able_Archer_83 It was a NATO military exercise, but the Soviets misinterpreted it as a camouflaged preparation for a nuclear attack by the west on them! They would never have had the idea if they'd thought the west was merely defending itself. I love revisionist history. Reality isn't black and white. Both sides were wrestling with each other for territory worldwide. There were hawks and doves on both sides, and strategists on both sides thought of themselves as "the better one". This is not an excuse of communist dictatorships BTW. Regards Yes, the Reagan administration did an excellent job of screwing with the USSR's head. It one of the reasons there is no longer a wall dividing your country and no longer a USSR. No, it isn't. Bertie |
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I always thought it was the people of Eastern Europe overthrowing their
communist governments, combined with the fact that a slightly more enlightened Soviet leader didn't send out the tanks, as his predecessors had always done in similar situations. Of course I'm brainwashed by the European media. And why, pray tell, do you think the Soviets didn't roll the tanks into Warsaw and Berlin? Do you really think it's cuz Gorbachev was such a "nice guy"? Honestly, I can't believe what some people pass off as "history" nowadays. Soon we'll hear that Hitler invaded France to help the transit worker's union... -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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This documentary is quite a good summary of the cold war era:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/078062386X/ A CNN production, a rather mainstream non-European source. Just an FYI: CNN isn't considered to be unbiased by many Americans. They are to the Left what Fox News is to the Right, politically. (Somewhere in the middle is probably the "Truth" -- although I'm partial to National Public Radio meself...) Unfortunately VHS and rather expensive. Holy crap, $175? You're not kidding... -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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Wolfgang Schwanke wrote:
Insight into their own failures and economic exhaustion played a part. And other than a economic system that can't work what do you think caused that economic exhaustion? This documentary is quite a good summary of the cold war era: http://www.amazon.com/dp/078062386X/ A CNN production, a rather mainstream non-European source. Unfortunately VHS and rather expensive. Regards If you want to read a good history of the Cold War try "We Now Know: Rethinking Cold War History" by John Lewis Gaddis. He is a Yale professor that was originally very much in the "two sides of the story" camp. After getting access to Kremlin documents after the fall of the USSR he pretty much, "Oh crap it was all Stalins fault." |
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