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Old November 20th 07, 05:00 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Brian[_1_]
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Sorry Tom, Your "expert" instructor has been wrong before. After you
asked I did a bit more research and found the following on the AOPA
Sport Pilot FAQ.

Do I need to perform a check ride to get an additional category and/or
class rating?
************************************************** *************************************************
No, a check ride is not required. Rather, you will need to follow the
provisions of 14 CFR 61.321, which requires the following:

Receive a logbook endorsement for meeting aeronautical knowledge and
flight proficiency requirements.
Complete a proficiency check from an authorized instructor other than
the instructor who trained you on the aeronautical knowledge and areas
of operation specified.
Complete an FAA Form 8710-11, Airmen Certificate and/or Rating
Application, and present it to the instructor who conducted the
proficiency check.
Receive a logbook endorsement from the instructor who conducted the
proficiency check certifying that you are proficient in the applicable
knowledge and areas of operation and that you are authorized for the
additional category and class of light sport aircraft.
************************************************** ************************************************
This is also referenced in the Sport Pilot PTS.

Since a Glider Pilot already qualifies for Sport Pilot Privileges, It
appears to be true that you there is no written or Check ride required
to be done by the FAA or a Designee. Instead you take a "proficiency
check" administered by a flight instructor.


Brian
CFIIG/ASEL
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Old November 21st 07, 12:59 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Andy[_1_]
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On Nov 20, 10:00 am, Brian wrote:

Do I need to perform a check ride to get an additional category and/or
class rating?
************************************************** *************************-************************
No, a check ride is not required. Rather, you will need to follow the
provisions of 14 CFR 61.321, which requires the following:



The private rated glider pilot does not hold a sport pilot certificate
with any category or class so there is no existing (sport pilot)
rating for the airplane category to be added to.

I remain unconvinced that a private rated glider pilot can add sport
airplane privileges without a flight test. Anyone that thinks
otherwise please provide a reference to the appropriate regulation
rather than an interpretation of someone else's comment.

61.307 defines the requirement and references some exceptions to the
requirements. I see nothing that allows a private rated glider pilot
to be exempted.

Andy
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Old November 21st 07, 01:18 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Andy[_1_]
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On Nov 21, 5:59 am, Andy wrote:

61.307 defines the requirement and references some exceptions to the
requirements. I see nothing that allows a private rated glider pilot
to be exempted.



I may have found my own answer. The sport pilot PTS provides this
satement:


Sport Pilot--Additional Privileges
If you hold a Sport Pilot Certificate or higher and seek to operate an
additional category or class of light-sport aircraft (14 CFR part 61,
section 61.321), you must:
1. receive a logbook endorsement .......
2. successfully complete a proficiency check from an authorized
instructor ......
3. complete an application for those privileges .......
4. receive a logbook endorsement from the instructor .......

So the key piece of information may be that a private glider rating is
assumed to be a higher rating than sport pilot with airplane category.

Anyone done this or know someone that has? How is the certificate
worded?

Andy
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Old November 23rd 07, 04:07 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Brian[_1_]
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On Nov 21, 6:18 am, Andy wrote:
On Nov 21, 5:59 am, Andy wrote:

61.307 defines the requirement and references some exceptions to the
requirements. I see nothing that allows a private rated glider pilot
to be exempted.


You are correct Andy,

If you have a Private Glider Rating then you also have all the
privledges of a Sport Pilot Glider Rating.

With the exception of adding additional Categories and Classes two
it,this is kind of a mute point since there is no medical required for
any glider. This is unlike the Sport Pilot Airplane rating where a
Private Airplane Pilot can fly a Light Sport Airplane without a
medical.

Brian
CFIIG/ASEL
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Old November 23rd 07, 06:03 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Tony Verhulst
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If you have a Private Glider Rating then you also have all the
privledges of a Sport Pilot Glider Rating.



Sport Pilot rating, with a glider endorsement?

Tony
 




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