will the US military power dominate the world

EU standard of life is at less equal of the USA one.

After having recently spent 10 days in western Europe, I'll disagree using one
example; fuel prices. The cost of both gas and diesel in Germany, France,
Luxemburg and Belgium was *3-4 times higher* than the average fuel prices in
the US. Unless you can show me that the average EU citizen makes 3-4 times more
than the average US citizen, you have a significant negative impact on standard
of living.

Oktoberfest was *awsome* though........


BUFDRVR

"Stay on the bomb run boys, I'm gonna get those bomb doors open if it harelips
everyone on Bear Creek"

BUFDRVR wrote:
EU standard of life is at less equal of the USA one.

After having recently spent 10 days in western Europe, I'll disagree
using one example; fuel prices. The cost of both gas and diesel in
Germany, France, Luxemburg and Belgium was *3-4 times higher*

Fuel price=TAXES= social assistance=better standard of life
Europeans car uses less fuel than american ones. Medium european car
engine=1400cc medium usa car engine=2000 cc= a lot of more fuel.
Europeans do less kilometers per year than an americans.

On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 13:39:52 GMT, "IO" wrote:

BUFDRVR wrote:
EU standard of life is at less equal of the USA one.

After having recently spent 10 days in western Europe, I'll disagree
using one example; fuel prices. The cost of both gas and diesel in
Germany, France, Luxemburg and Belgium was *3-4 times higher*

Fuel price=TAXES= social assistance=better standard of life

Not from where I am sitting.

The productive all across europe get ripped off to buy votes from the idle
and indolent, leaving them with little for their one well being.

One cannot have a 'better standard of life' when the state is confiscating
3/4s of ones lifetime earnings via direct and indirect taxation.

The only people to have a 'better standard of life' are those who spend
their entire existence suckling at the public teat.


greg


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Fuel price=TAXES= social assistance=better standard of life

Not from where I am sitting.

The productive all across europe get ripped off to buy votes from the idle
and indolent, leaving them with little for their one well being.

One cannot have a 'better standard of life' when the state is confiscating
3/4s of ones lifetime earnings via direct and indirect taxation.

The only people to have a 'better standard of life' are those who spend
their entire existence suckling at the public teat.


greg

It will be interesting over the next 10 years to see how Western Europe handles
it, as their population ages even more, with much less younger people to help
pay into the system, in proportion to those who are retired and recieving the
benefits of such a social program.

Ron
Pilot/Wildland Firefighter

Ron wrote:
Fuel price=TAXES= social assistance=better standard of life

Not from where I am sitting.

The productive all across europe get ripped off to buy votes from
the idle and indolent, leaving them with little for their one well
being.

One cannot have a 'better standard of life' when the state is
confiscating 3/4s of ones lifetime earnings via direct and indirect
taxation.

The only people to have a 'better standard of life' are those who
spend
their entire existence suckling at the public teat.


greg

It will be interesting over the next 10 years to see how Western
Europe handles it, as their population ages even more, with much less
younger people to help pay into the system, in proportion to those
who are retired and recieving the benefits of such a social program.

This is valid without considering the immigrants, also in the United States
WASP (the part of the US population more paragonable to the europeans)
people is becoming older... But the other parts of population are younger...

P.S. what about racial integration?

In article ,
"IO" wrote:

Ron wrote:

It will be interesting over the next 10 years to see how Western
Europe handles it, as their population ages even more, with much less
younger people to help pay into the system, in proportion to those
who are retired and recieving the benefits of such a social program.

This is valid without considering the immigrants, also in the United States
WASP (the part of the US population more paragonable to the europeans)
people is becoming older... But the other parts of population are younger...

Actually, most of the European countries are in deep trouble, even at
current rates of immigration. The ones that are letting in more people
are having severe problems integrating the newcomers (France's problems
with Moslem immigrants, for example). and just "letting people in"
doesn't help if they have no jobs for them to fill (look at the current
long-term unemployment problems in France and Germany).

P.S. what about racial integration?

Much better over here. Of course, we've had about a half-century more
practice at it.

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On 19 Oct 2003 19:16:02 GMT, 362436 (Ron) wrote:

It will be interesting over the next 10 years to see how Western Europe handles
it, as their population ages even more, with much less younger people to help
pay into the system, in proportion to those who are retired and recieving the
benefits of such a social program.

Ron
Pilot/Wildland Firefighter

They've been importing large numbers of workers from Eastern Europe,
and from places like Algeria. NO matter where it's been tried,
Socialism eventually falls on its ass, as more and more taxes are
levied to buy more votes at election time.


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"Ron" wrote in message
...
Fuel price=TAXES= social assistance=better standard of life

Not from where I am sitting.

The productive all across europe get ripped off to buy votes from the
idle
and indolent, leaving them with little for their one well being.

One cannot have a 'better standard of life' when the state is
confiscating
3/4s of ones lifetime earnings via direct and indirect taxation.

The only people to have a 'better standard of life' are those who spend
their entire existence suckling at the public teat.


greg

It will be interesting over the next 10 years to see how Western Europe
handles
it, as their population ages even more, with much less younger people to
help
pay into the system, in proportion to those who are retired and recieving
the
benefits of such a social program.

This last summer while hiking through the Rocky Mountains I passed
many pairs of college students. One pair, to judge by accents and
appearances was a German and an Indian (or Pakistani, at least some
where from the neck of the woods); the portion of the conversation
I caught from this pair was how in the not to distant future every working
German was going to have his very own retiree to support via taxes.

In article , "IO"
wrote:

BUFDRVR wrote:
EU standard of life is at less equal of the USA one.

After having recently spent 10 days in western Europe, I'll disagree
using one example; fuel prices. The cost of both gas and diesel in
Germany, France, Luxemburg and Belgium was *3-4 times higher*

Fuel price=TAXES= social assistance=better standard of life

Except that doesn't really follow. All that really means is that the
European governments have more of your money.

Europeans car uses less fuel than american ones. Medium european car
engine=1400cc medium usa car engine=2000 cc= a lot of more fuel.
Europeans do less kilometers per year than an americans.

So they have a lower standard of living when it comes to personal
transportation.

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Remember: Objects in rearview mirror may be hallucinations.
Slam on brakes accordingly.

Chad Irby wrote:
In article , "IO"
wrote:

BUFDRVR wrote:
EU standard of life is at less equal of the USA one.

After having recently spent 10 days in western Europe, I'll disagree
using one example; fuel prices. The cost of both gas and diesel in
Germany, France, Luxemburg and Belgium was *3-4 times higher*

Fuel price=TAXES= social assistance=better standard of life

Except that doesn't really follow. All that really means is that the
European governments have more of your money.

Europeans car uses less fuel than american ones. Medium european car
engine=1400cc medium usa car engine=2000 cc= a lot of more fuel.
Europeans do less kilometers per year than an americans.

So they have a lower standard of living when it comes to personal
transportation.

No idiot the distances in Europe are much less than USA. We also have an
efficient human transportation by railway (HIGH speed train in france spain
italy germany...). USA has diesel loco's europeans electric ones...