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Old November 27th 07, 07:33 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
Patrick
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Jon,

The turn should have started at 400 agl, right?

On Nov 27, 1:14 pm, "Jon Woellhaf" wrote:
I recently filed IFR and received a clearance from Ground. As part of the
clearance, I was told, "... after departure turn left heading 300 ..." I
taxied to the active, did my run-up, called Tower and said I was ready for
departure. I was soon cleared for takeoff.

At about 1000 AGL, I began the left turn to 3000.

About a minute later, when I hadn't yet been told to contact departure, I
asked Tower if they wanted me to contact departure. That's when the
confusion began. The controller said, "I didn't know you wanted to go to
departure, but, yeah, you can contact departure. Good day." "Well, I'm IFR,"
I replied. After a brief pause, Tower said, "Roger. Do me a favor, squawk
1200. I can't give you departure. You didn't tell me you were IFR. I didn't
get you a release."

I said I'd proceed on course VFR and asked if they'd get me a clearance.
They soon got it and handed me off to departure.

Guess I'll remember to remind Tower that I'm IFR from now on, although I
didn't think that was necessary. At least in this case, it was.

Jon


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Old November 27th 07, 09:14 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
Jon Woellhaf
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"Patrick" wrote in message
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Jon,

The turn should have started at 400 agl, right?


I normally turn at 400 to 500 AGL, but in this case a turn at that altitude
would have put me into the path of a 172 that had departed from the parallel
runway. Tower had called the traffic, although he said the traffic was going
to make a right crosswind turn, when he meant left.

And BTW, I was told to turn left heading 300, not 3000. (That's the hard way
to get to 120. g)


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Old November 30th 07, 10:51 AM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
Sam Spade
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Patrick wrote:
Jon,

The turn should have started at 400 agl, right?


When the weather is less than VFR, yes. If it is VFR your first
responsbility is to exactly what he did because of the conflicting VFR
traffic.
 




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