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Old November 29th 07, 04:02 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Gatt
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"Phil" wrote in message
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Eventually Wordperfect lost out in the market to superior products.
Time will tell if this happens to the Skycatcher.


It was purchased and destroyed. Notice how much Microsoft Word looked like
old Wordperfect? Sorta like how Excel looked a lot like the early Windows
versions of Lotus 1-2-3. Buy 'em, make an "update" that turns to product
to total crap and then sell your conspicuously-identical version that
actually works.

Who would do a thing like that?

-c


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Old November 29th 07, 06:31 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Nov 29, 10:02 am, "Gatt" wrote:
"Phil" wrote in message

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Eventually Wordperfect lost out in the market to superior products.
Time will tell if this happens to the Skycatcher.


It was purchased and destroyed. Notice how much Microsoft Word looked like
old Wordperfect? Sorta like how Excel looked a lot like the early Windows
versions of Lotus 1-2-3. Buy 'em, make an "update" that turns to product
to total crap and then sell your conspicuously-identical version that
actually works.

Who would do a thing like that?

-c


What I remember about Wordperfect was it had no menus. Everything was
based on keyboard commands. There were competing products with much
better user interfaces, but they didn't have the support that
Wordperfect had. Lots of people bought the inferior product because
of the support. I suspect that's what may happen with the Skycatcher.

Phil
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Old November 30th 07, 06:19 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Gatt writes:

It was purchased and destroyed.


Actually, the competition improved, but WordPerfect did not.
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Old November 30th 07, 02:09 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_19_]
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Mxsmanic wrote in
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Gatt writes:

It was purchased and destroyed.


Actually, the competition improved, but WordPerfect did not.


You're an idiot.


Bertie
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Old November 30th 07, 05:13 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Gatt
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"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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It was purchased and destroyed.


Actually, the competition improved, but WordPerfect did not.

You're an idiot.


I was a contractor at Netscape when IE4.0 came out. Basically, it looked
just like somebody stole the internal alpha copy of Netscape Communicator.

(After Internet Exploder's release party in San Francisco, they dropped a
giant blue paper-mache-and-chickenwire "e" on the front lawn of Netscape.
Which would add trespassing and littering to theft, except that by noon the
7' Netscape lizard, "Mozilla" was standing on the yard among the smashed
remains of the Microsoft "e".)

In Netscape's case, the competition didn't "improve." They stole
proprietary code and used massive personnel resources to get it to market
before the smaller company. I wouldn't expect people in Europe to
understand how that sort of thing happened in terms of web browsers, word
processors, spreadsheets and other "Microsoft products" that bear striking
resemblances to former competitors.

-c


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Old November 30th 07, 05:29 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_19_]
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"Gatt" wrote in
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"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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It was purchased and destroyed.

Actually, the competition improved, but WordPerfect did not.

You're an idiot.


I was a contractor at Netscape when IE4.0 came out. Basically, it
looked just like somebody stole the internal alpha copy of Netscape
Communicator.




(After Internet Exploder's release party in San Francisco, they
dropped a giant blue paper-mache-and-chickenwire "e" on the front lawn
of Netscape. Which would add trespassing and littering to theft,
except that by noon the 7' Netscape lizard, "Mozilla" was standing on
the yard among the smashed remains of the Microsoft "e".)

In Netscape's case, the competition didn't "improve." They stole
proprietary code and used massive personnel resources to get it to
market before the smaller company.



Who cares? I use wahtever works best and that's still mozilla for me..

I wouldn't expect people in
Europe to understand how that sort of thing happened in terms of web
browsers, word processors, spreadsheets and other "Microsoft products"
that bear striking resemblances to former competitors.


Yeah, they're still using two tin cans and piecs of string there.


Bertie


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Old November 30th 07, 06:33 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
.. .

In Netscape's case, the competition didn't "improve." They stole
proprietary code and used massive personnel resources to get it to
market before the smaller company.


Who cares? I use wahtever works best and that's still mozilla for me..


That was a dark week. I was there the day they came in and told a bunch of
the engineers that AOL was integrating their software (Instant Messenger),
which was the harbinger. They knew it was a matter of time before AOL
merged with Netscape. It all went downhill from there, which is how there's
Firefox.

'Course, I hear the new Internet Explorer has many of the internal and
external features of Firefox.

I wouldn't expect people in Europe to understand how that sort of thing
happened in terms of web
browsers, word processors, spreadsheets and other "Microsoft products"
that bear striking resemblances to former competitors.


Yeah, they're still using two tin cans and piecs of string there.


Well, more importantly, they don't have exposure to the Silicon Valley or
Seattle scuttlebutt that you find on the West Coast as technology types
shift jobs and interact over time. One time, Netscape and Microsoft shared
an outsourced call center in Oregon under a rule that they couldn't be in
the same room together. Not only were they in the same room, only a cube
wall separated them. I was there as a technical writer. A Netscape
contractor turned on a computer, the circuit-breaker flipped....and Win95
technical support went down.

Stream International lied bigtime to cover that one up, and separated the
teams, but for awhile Netscape tech support could hear Win95 support techs
on the telephone. Some of those guys jumped from one team to the other.

(If that wasn't sleazy enough, they sold a contract to a great
company--Adobe--who required domestic, US-based technical support. So the
calls came into the Oregon office and then auto-forwarded to Nova Scotia or
somewhere. Right now I work with guys who were sent to Canada on a project,
only to learn that they were there to train their replacements. A
non-disclosure agreement prevented them from divulging what was happening to
Adobe.)

-c


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Old November 30th 07, 06:45 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_19_]
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"Gatt" wrote in
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"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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In Netscape's case, the competition didn't "improve." They stole
proprietary code and used massive personnel resources to get it to
market before the smaller company.


Who cares? I use wahtever works best and that's still mozilla for
me..


That was a dark week. I was there the day they came in and told a
bunch of the engineers that AOL was integrating their software
(Instant Messenger), which was the harbinger. They knew it was a
matter of time before AOL merged with Netscape. It all went downhill
from there, which is how there's Firefox.

'Course, I hear the new Internet Explorer has many of the internal and
external features of Firefox.

I wouldn't expect people in Europe to understand how that sort of
thing happened in terms of web
browsers, word processors, spreadsheets and other "Microsoft
products" that bear striking resemblances to former competitors.


Yeah, they're still using two tin cans and piecs of string there.


Well, more importantly, they don't have exposure to the Silicon Valley
or Seattle scuttlebutt that you find on the West Coast as technology
types shift jobs and interact over time.



I think you might find that they do.


Bertie



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Old November 30th 07, 09:56 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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In article ,
"Gatt" wrote:

'Course, I hear the new Internet Explorer has many of the internal and
external features of Firefox.


Do you mean IE 7 looks like firefox?

It doesn't seem like firefox at all.

--
Bob Noel
(goodness, please trim replies!!!)

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Old November 30th 07, 05:26 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Matt W. Barrow
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"Gatt" wrote in message
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"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
.. .

It was purchased and destroyed.

Actually, the competition improved, but WordPerfect did not.

You're an idiot.


I was a contractor at Netscape when IE4.0 came out. Basically, it looked
just like somebody stole the internal alpha copy of Netscape Communicator.

(After Internet Exploder's release party in San Francisco, they dropped a
giant blue paper-mache-and-chickenwire "e" on the front lawn of Netscape.
Which would add trespassing and littering to theft, except that by noon
the 7' Netscape lizard, "Mozilla" was standing on the yard among the
smashed remains of the Microsoft "e".)

In Netscape's case, the competition didn't "improve." They stole
proprietary code and used massive personnel resources to get it to market
before the smaller company. I wouldn't expect people in Europe to
understand how that sort of thing happened in terms of web browsers, word
processors, spreadsheets and other "Microsoft products" that bear striking
resemblances to former competitors.

Gatt,

Maybe you could verify something for me: I've heard for some time that,
though MS is quick to prosecute piracy and reverse engineering MS stuff,
they expend copious amounts of money reverse engineering competitors
products.

True or trash?


 




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