Barf bags don't work in zero G's

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
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Aviv Hod wrote:
Fellow pilots, let's be nicer to our passengers than this pilot
apparently is. If anyone in the plane has a bag at the ready,
it's not a good time to pull zero G maneuvers!!

http://www.break.com/index/barf-bags...k-at-0-gs.html

This is pretty funny though :-)

-Aviv
In my opinion this pilot would not end up on my list of people I
would recommend.
This "stunt" is unwise as a general rule, especially in aircraft
like this one; especially loaded with passengers; especially with
baggage in the baggage compartment; especially with that baggage
not tied down and secured; and most importantly, especially at the
high rate of forward pressure this pilot was obviously using to
"create the effect". It's very possible to take these airplanes
right on through 0 g and into negative g if this is done fast
enough and these airplanes are not designed for that. Carried to
the extreme, this "stunt" could cause real structural problems.
And all this doesn't even address the fact that at least one
passenger on this flight was taken from the role of passenger and
made a victim by this totally inappropriate, unprofessional, and
unnecessary act of stupidity by this pilot.
Demonstrating things like this in a loaded airplane is not the way
to impress the ladies.
I hope I've made my point on this perfectly clear.

Waht was that first part again?


Bertie
Bad JuJu :-)

Yep. What an asshole!
When I used to give aerobatic rides in the Stearmans, we had our
share of casualties. We always briefed a signal if the passenger was
getting uncomfortable. Sometimes it caught up on them, though and if
you saw a head going over the cockpit side your foot went down on the
same side quick-ish so you didn't get a faceful yourself. A couple of
people just put their head 'twxth their knees, but fortunately, the
Stearman had a removable pan beneath the cockpits you could release
with a few dzus and a quick hosing our was all that was needed.
Now there's a well thought out airplane.



Bertie




I've tried that rudder trick myself in a Great Lakes....with mixed
results :-))
The Stearman is a great airplane. We had a 450 on the field I flew
once in a while with the owner. Don't know if you ever had the chance
to fly the 450. It was a whole new airplane. I remember laughing to
myself on my first takeoff. I didn't have the power in before I broke
ground. The nose visuals were about the same as the
Mustang.....non-existent :-))


Most of my time is in Lyc and Contineal powered ones. The only 450 I
flew was a duster and it weighed so much it went about the same as the
stock ones!


Bertie



I had the same feeling. Better nose vis in the standard and the 450 was
heavy as hell in the glide. Great airplanes though and a whole lot of
fun. Flying open is a special experience :-)


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I had the same feeling. Better nose vis in the standard and the 450 was
heavy as hell in the glide. Great airplanes though and a whole lot of
fun. Flying open is a special experience :-)



Only way to go in my book. Stearman was a great aerobatic trainer.
Virtually unburstable (except the prop, of course) and demanding enough to
do aerobatics in, but it was no Waco...
The Lakes was even better, but I got only a little time in them.


Bertie

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
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I had the same feeling. Better nose vis in the standard and the 450 was
heavy as hell in the glide. Great airplanes though and a whole lot of
fun. Flying open is a special experience :-)



Only way to go in my book. Stearman was a great aerobatic trainer.
Virtually unburstable (except the prop, of course)

Yeah. I remember Rolly Cole going in with a prop failure.




and demanding enough to
do aerobatics in, but it was no Waco...

Never flew the Wacos. Great airplanes.
The Lakes was even better, but I got only a little time in them.

The Lakes was a real fun machine. Stable and feisty enough (unless you
had flown a Jungmiester that is :-))


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I had the same feeling. Better nose vis in the standard and the 450
was heavy as hell in the glide. Great airplanes though and a whole
lot of fun. Flying open is a special experience :-)



Only way to go in my book. Stearman was a great aerobatic trainer.
Virtually unburstable (except the prop, of course)

Yeah. I remember Rolly Cole going in with a prop failure.


That's right. He wasn't the only one, either.
The steel McCauley had an AD on it which is one reason why you see so many
converted to wood props nowadays.
Aside from that, at the time I flew them anyway, the airframe was
completely AD free. I think thy ehave a couple of age related ones now but
nothing too serious if looked after. I still can't figure out how they came
up with a redline on the thing, We could never get them to go faster than
about 170 standing on the pedals.


Bertie

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Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
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I had the same feeling. Better nose vis in the standard and the 450
was heavy as hell in the glide. Great airplanes though and a whole
lot of fun. Flying open is a special experience :-)


Only way to go in my book. Stearman was a great aerobatic trainer.
Virtually unburstable (except the prop, of course)
Yeah. I remember Rolly Cole going in with a prop failure.


That's right. He wasn't the only one, either.
The steel McCauley had an AD on it which is one reason why you see so many
converted to wood props nowadays.
Aside from that, at the time I flew them anyway, the airframe was
completely AD free. I think thy ehave a couple of age related ones now but
nothing too serious if looked after. I still can't figure out how they came
up with a redline on the thing, We could never get them to go faster than
about 170 standing on the pedals.


Bertie

Yeah. Real shame about Cole. I don't remember any others but that's
normal. I really wasn't in the Stearman community and didn't hang around
with the guys all that much. I think Cole was using AT6 blades on a Ham
Standard Hub on his setup if I recall, but I'm not sure.
Great planes. Great times. Some tragedies of course.
Do you happen to remember the instructor over at Flying W in New Jersey
who rolled the Stearman into the woods over there? I think his name was
Milo Tycheck or something similar? It happened just before I flew there
for a while as an instructor.



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Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
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Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
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I had the same feeling. Better nose vis in the standard and the
450 was heavy as hell in the glide. Great airplanes though and a
whole lot of fun. Flying open is a special experience :-)


Only way to go in my book. Stearman was a great aerobatic trainer.
Virtually unburstable (except the prop, of course)
Yeah. I remember Rolly Cole going in with a prop failure.


That's right. He wasn't the only one, either.
The steel McCauley had an AD on it which is one reason why you see so
many converted to wood props nowadays.
Aside from that, at the time I flew them anyway, the airframe was
completely AD free. I think thy ehave a couple of age related ones
now but nothing too serious if looked after. I still can't figure out
how they came up with a redline on the thing, We could never get them
to go faster than about 170 standing on the pedals.


Bertie

Yeah. Real shame about Cole. I don't remember any others but that's
normal. I really wasn't in the Stearman community and didn't hang
around with the guys all that much. I think Cole was using AT6 blades
on a Ham Standard Hub on his setup if I recall, but I'm not sure.
Great planes. Great times. Some tragedies of course.
Do you happen to remember the instructor over at Flying W in New
Jersey who rolled the Stearman into the woods over there? I think his
name was Milo Tycheck or something similar? It happened just before I
flew there for a while as an instructor.


Mira Slovac? He banged up a Jungmeister somewhere, but he lived and gave
it up.

I do vaguely remember some of the old guys talking about someone who
cracked up in Cape May, I think. Ran out of gas during his routine?
That him?


Bertie


I thnk

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Dudley Henriques wrote in
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Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Dudley Henriques wrote in
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Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Dudley Henriques wrote in
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I had the same feeling. Better nose vis in the standard and the
450 was heavy as hell in the glide. Great airplanes though and a
whole lot of fun. Flying open is a special experience :-)


Only way to go in my book. Stearman was a great aerobatic trainer.
Virtually unburstable (except the prop, of course)
Yeah. I remember Rolly Cole going in with a prop failure.

That's right. He wasn't the only one, either.
The steel McCauley had an AD on it which is one reason why you see so
many converted to wood props nowadays.
Aside from that, at the time I flew them anyway, the airframe was
completely AD free. I think thy ehave a couple of age related ones
now but nothing too serious if looked after. I still can't figure out
how they came up with a redline on the thing, We could never get them
to go faster than about 170 standing on the pedals.


Bertie
Yeah. Real shame about Cole. I don't remember any others but that's
normal. I really wasn't in the Stearman community and didn't hang
around with the guys all that much. I think Cole was using AT6 blades
on a Ham Standard Hub on his setup if I recall, but I'm not sure.
Great planes. Great times. Some tragedies of course.
Do you happen to remember the instructor over at Flying W in New
Jersey who rolled the Stearman into the woods over there? I think his
name was Milo Tycheck or something similar? It happened just before I
flew there for a while as an instructor.


Mira Slovac? He banged up a Jungmeister somewhere, but he lived and gave
it up.

I do vaguely remember some of the old guys talking about someone who
cracked up in Cape May, I think. Ran out of gas during his routine?
That him?


Bertie


I thnk

No, it wasn't Slovak. I remember him well. This guy was a local; sort of
a "hot rock type" local CFI. He just did one roll too many and too low
and bought it in a Stearman one day over at Flying W.
Happens. I'm pretty sure his name was Tycheck.
Oh well....they say the first thing to go is the old memory :-))

Mira was pushing a Bearcat back in the 64 65 Reno period. He was one of
the original Reno crowd back when things were FUN!!


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