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Old October 19th 03, 10:17 PM
Franck
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what happened in France ?
15K dead from heat?


right, I'm surprise by this fact

what happen in USA, more than 12K dead, shot in the street every year. it
seems life is less dangerous in Irak

how many people die in USA each year without any medical assistance ?

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Old October 19th 03, 10:46 PM
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On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 18:09:06 GMT, Chad Irby wrote:

In article , "IO"
wrote:

BUFDRVR wrote:
EU standard of life is at less equal of the USA one.

After having recently spent 10 days in western Europe, I'll disagree
using one example; fuel prices. The cost of both gas and diesel in
Germany, France, Luxemburg and Belgium was *3-4 times higher*


Fuel price=TAXES= social assistance=better standard of life


Except that doesn't really follow. All that really means is that the
European governments have more of your money.

Europeans car uses less fuel than american ones. Medium european car
engine=1400cc medium usa car engine=2000 cc= a lot of more fuel.
Europeans do less kilometers per year than an americans.


So they have a lower standard of living when it comes to personal
transportation.


I have a *very* average Ford Taurus station-wagon, and it has a 3
Liter engine. Quite safe and comfortable.

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Old October 19th 03, 11:44 PM
Chad Irby
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In article ,
"IO" wrote:

Chad Irby wrote:
In article , "IO"
wrote:

Europeans car uses less fuel than american ones. Medium european car
engine=1400cc medium usa car engine=2000 cc= a lot of more fuel.
Europeans do less kilometers per year than an americans.


So they have a lower standard of living when it comes to personal
transportation.


No idiot the distances in Europe are much less than USA.


Which means you don't need cars with big engines, since you don't
usually go as far. Of course, it certainly brings up "why are gas taxes
so high?"

Oh, right... to pay for all of the other programs that cost you too much.

But if the government wasn't so overwhelming there, they wouldn't need
so much of your money.

We also have an efficient human transportation by railway (HIGH speed
train in france spain italy germany...). USA has diesel loco's
europeans electric ones...


Not mentioning, of course, that since most American railways are
covering three to ten times as much distance, electric trains are a
horrible waste of money (infrastructure costs can kill you for long
runs).

And also not mentioning that some American trains *are* electric (the
short-haul ones).

And for *long* distances (the ones you guys use trains for), we use
these newfangled things called "airplanes," which are pretty cheap to
operate over distances over a couple of hundred miles.

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Old October 19th 03, 11:48 PM
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"IO" wrote:

How much you spend every year for the sanitaty insurance?


I suppose you mean "sanitary" insurance.

What the hell is "sanitary" insurance?

Health insurance?

More or less than you spend for your house?


Much less.

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Old October 19th 03, 11:49 PM
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"IO" wrote:

Note that of the three things you mention, two of them are European
problems, too. Unless Europeans don't live in houses or use credit
cards.

And if you're looking for a university education, it's not that
expensive here (unless you go somewhere like Harvard or Yale).
Which is part of the reason we get so many Europeans here in our
schools...


*ROTFL* For lobotomy? *ROTFL*


You're really lost in all of this, aren't you?

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Old October 19th 03, 11:52 PM
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In article ,
"Franck" wrote:

Unless Europeans don't live in houses or use credit cards.


lol of course, you know what, i live in cave and use candle during night. to
go to my job I use a horse.....

comme on Chad, wake up and open your eyes to see the real world


Well, since (by your comment above) you seem to think that the claimed
"problems" that Americans have with having to spend money on houses and
credit cards don't seem to impact Europeans...

Of the original complaints (house, credit, college), the only one of the
three that had any weight was Americans having to spend more on higher
education, and that's reasonably minor for most folks - and offset
completely for a lot of people.

So it appears that you *are* living in some sort of cave.

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Old October 19th 03, 11:54 PM
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In article ,
"IO" wrote:

As almost americans he had not seen the rest of the world and is sure that
chinese don't see very well because they have small eyes and other things of
this type


You know, for such a "fair" group, the amount of pure bigotry and hatred
from the Europeans in this thread is shocking.

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Old October 19th 03, 11:59 PM
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In article ,
"IO" wrote:

Ron wrote:

It will be interesting over the next 10 years to see how Western
Europe handles it, as their population ages even more, with much less
younger people to help pay into the system, in proportion to those
who are retired and recieving the benefits of such a social program.


This is valid without considering the immigrants, also in the United States
WASP (the part of the US population more paragonable to the europeans)
people is becoming older... But the other parts of population are younger...


Actually, most of the European countries are in deep trouble, even at
current rates of immigration. The ones that are letting in more people
are having severe problems integrating the newcomers (France's problems
with Moslem immigrants, for example). and just "letting people in"
doesn't help if they have no jobs for them to fill (look at the current
long-term unemployment problems in France and Germany).

P.S. what about racial integration?


Much better over here. Of course, we've had about a half-century more
practice at it.

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