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Old November 30th 07, 01:05 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
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I must say that I have never received a VFR clearance which said "turn
left heading xxx" or "fly runway heading" on takeoff. Where I fly,
these are not VFR departure instructions. Perhaps they are elsewhere.

However, this does not negate my original comment. If departing IFR,
in the ABSENCE of such an instruction, be suspicious.


On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 16:06:26 -0800 (PST), "Robert M. Gary"
wrote:

On Nov 27, 1:56 pm, wrote:
Whenever you are cleared for takeoff and do not get some kind of
instruction from tower (fly runway heading, turn left xxx., etc), be
suspicious.


Have you ever not been given such instructions when VFR?? I've never
gotten a VFR takeoff clearance that didn't include some instruction on
what heading (or at least direction) to fly until leaving the class D.

-Robert

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Old December 1st 07, 04:32 AM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
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Yes I misspoke - Class B and C towers do issue such instructions to
VFR pilots. However, since departure is contacted in such cases, the
error can be quickly remedied. (although I don't recall ever
experienceing tower confusion such as described in B and C airspace)


On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 10:52:42 -0500, B A R R Y
wrote:

wrote:
I must say that I have never received a VFR clearance which said "turn
left heading xxx" or "fly runway heading" on takeoff.


Very common in busy airspace, as well as at fields with noise abatement
programs.

Northeastern Charlie and Bravo fields will often continue to vector and
assign altitudes until I exit the airspace.

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Old November 30th 07, 09:41 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
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However, this does not negate my original comment. If departing IFR,
in the ABSENCE of such an instruction, be suspicious.


In my case (very similar to the OP's case) I was given departing
instructions as part of my clearance by ground. Its very rare to
receive those instructions again from tower so you wouldn't find it
odd if it wasn't repeated. I guess the ground and tower controllers
don't always coordinate as well as they should.

-robert
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Old December 28th 07, 11:45 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
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I must say that I have never received a VFR clearance which said "turn
left heading xxx" or "fly runway heading" on takeoff. Where I fly,
these are not VFR departure instructions. Perhaps they are elsewhere.


Here at ACY (Class C), for a VFR departure we almost always get "fly runway
heading, maintain at or below 1500". Occasionally when issuing the takeoff
clearance Tower will also clear us to turn on course .


 




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