RIP Cirrus

"Rich Ahrens" wrote in message
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Gig 601XL Builder wrote:
On the Cirrus side you have a foreign country, that while the religion it
follows is generally anti US, has a long an productive relationship with
the west and the US in particular. And even if you hate everything they
stand for at least they are sending some of the money back to the US that
we sent over there.

What it boils down to is money into the US=Good. Money out of the US=Bad.

Make up your mind. You were just bitching about Cessna maximizing its
profit by outsourcing. Seems to me that profit is money into the US...

For a few. The rest--the people who made Cessna what it was by Actually
Making the Cessnas--will have a hard time enjoying Cessna's "profits."

-c

"Gatt" wrote in message
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"Rich Ahrens" wrote in message
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Gig 601XL Builder wrote:
On the Cirrus side you have a foreign country, that while the religion
it follows is generally anti US, has a long an productive relationship
with the west and the US in particular. And even if you hate everything
they stand for at least they are sending some of the money back to the
US that we sent over there.

What it boils down to is money into the US=Good. Money out of the
US=Bad.

Make up your mind. You were just bitching about Cessna maximizing its
profit by outsourcing. Seems to me that profit is money into the US...

For a few. The rest--the people who made Cessna what it was by Actually
Making the Cessnas--will have a hard time enjoying Cessna's "profits."

Who made Cessna what it is? The workers? The management? The INVESTORS? Who
actually had $$$ at risk?

Gatt wrote:



For a few. The rest--the people who made Cessna what it was by Actually
Making the Cessnas--will have a hard time enjoying Cessna's "profits."

Are you kidding? Cessna is going flat out right now.

"Matt W. Barrow" wrote in
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"Gatt" wrote in message
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"Rich Ahrens" wrote in message
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Gig 601XL Builder wrote:
On the Cirrus side you have a foreign country, that while the
religion it follows is generally anti US, has a long an productive
relationship with the west and the US in particular. And even if
you hate everything they stand for at least they are sending some
of the money back to the US that we sent over there.

What it boils down to is money into the US=Good. Money out of the
US=Bad.

Make up your mind. You were just bitching about Cessna maximizing
its profit by outsourcing. Seems to me that profit is money into the
US...

For a few. The rest--the people who made Cessna what it was by
Actually Making the Cessnas--will have a hard time enjoying Cessna's
"profits."

Who made Cessna what it is?


Clyde Cessna, mostly.


Bertie

"Gatt" wrote in
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"Rich Ahrens" wrote in message
ouse.com...
Gig 601XL Builder wrote:
On the Cirrus side you have a foreign country, that while the
religion it follows is generally anti US, has a long an productive
relationship with the west and the US in particular. And even if you
hate everything they stand for at least they are sending some of the
money back to the US that we sent over there.

What it boils down to is money into the US=Good. Money out of the
US=Bad.

Make up your mind. You were just bitching about Cessna maximizing its
profit by outsourcing. Seems to me that profit is money into the
US...

For a few. The rest--the people who made Cessna what it was by
Actually Making the Cessnas--will have a hard time enjoying Cessna's
"profits."

-c




So don't buy one.


Easy, see?


Bertie

"Matt W. Barrow" wrote in message
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For a few. The rest--the people who made Cessna what it was by Actually
Making the Cessnas--will have a hard time enjoying Cessna's "profits."

Who made Cessna what it is? The workers? The management? The INVESTORS?
Who actually had $$$ at risk?

When it comes to the ability of America, its economy and its people, we all
have $$$ at risk.

All the money in the empire couldn't have built Julius Caesar a Cessna.

All the money in the American economy wouldn't have populated general
aviation with the Cessnas that the factory workers didn't build for them.
If the Cessna investors want to make Cessna a chinese company whose profits
go to a small number of -international- shareholders (not necessarily
Americans) they should just say so. But first they should tell it to the
Americans who just lost their jobs to the communists so that handful of
investors could make more money.

-c

"Newps" wrote in message
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For a few. The rest--the people who made Cessna what it was by Actually
Making the Cessnas--will have a hard time enjoying Cessna's "profits."

Are you kidding? Cessna is going flat out right now.

You're right.
"Cessna recorded a 2005 profit of $457 million on revenue of $3.4 billion,
compared to 2004 profit of $267 million on revenue of $2.5 billion. The
company builds business jets at its factory complex at Wichita's
Mid-Continent Airport and single-engine piston aircraft at its plant in
Independence, Kan. "
http://wichita.bizjournals.com/wichi...html?hbx=e_abd

Good for them. The record profits must have been hurting them so bad, they
just had to relocate to China.

Wal-Mart's domestic factories were going flat out when they bragged to
everybody about how American they were.

-c

"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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For a few. The rest--the people who made Cessna what it was by
Actually Making the Cessnas--will have a hard time enjoying Cessna's
"profits."

So don't buy one.

Easy, see?

In what way is Americans not buying things good for the US economy? It would
be better all around if I bought a Cessna that was built in Wichita instead
of not buying one that was made in China.

Meanwhile, they're reporting record profits for domestic production...not
during production in China, but during the last two years. With a crisis
like that it's no wonder they're moving to a communist state with shoddy
quality control, unethical business practices, massive human rights
violations and near-slave labor.

Once those folks in Kansas are laid off, none of them will be buying Cessnas
either. Not exactly Mr. Ford's business model. And you know the Chinese
workers going to buy them either. 'Course, the French might, what with the
value of the Euro over the dollar. It'll be interesting to hear from them
about how the Skycatcher handles, because I'll probably never fly one.

-c

On Nov 30, 9:28 am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
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On Nov 29, 8:04 pm, Rich Ahrens wrote:
Gatt wrote:
"Rich Ahrens" wrote in message
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"No way am I buying any aeroplane built by them heathen Chinee..."

F'ck the Chinese. I don't care if people call it xenophobic.
They're environment-trashing, human-rights-violating,
child-abandoning, dissident-imprisoning communists who sell weapons
to our enemies and block their population from accessing the truth
about the world and their government.

Sound like ideal allies and trading partners then - certainly we have
or have had plenty of other allies guilty of all the above.

Xenophobic? What are the chances of the Dalai Lama dropping in to
watch the Olympics without disappearing?

It's not phobic to say that China is our ideological enemy. But I
-could- be phobic, because anybody who has nuclear weapons pointed
at my home or tries to steal our military technology is my enemy.

Thank you for demonstrating my point.

You have no point. Gatt is 100% correct. Placating the Chinese with
trade won't last. Eventually, they will exercise their military. I
am expecting them to invade Siberia in an effort to expand their
territory and gain access to more natural resources. How do you say
"Liebensraum" in Chinese?

Well, you say it as Lebensraum in German, for starters.

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Thanks for the spelling check...

"Gatt" wrote in
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"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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For a few. The rest--the people who made Cessna what it was by
Actually Making the Cessnas--will have a hard time enjoying Cessna's
"profits."

So don't buy one.

Easy, see?

In what way is Americans not buying things good for the US economy?



It
would be better all around if I bought a Cessna that was built in
Wichita instead of not buying one that was made in China.


Good grief.


So, you want a law to make them build it in the US, is that it?



Meanwhile, they're reporting record profits for domestic
production...not during production in China, but during the last two
years. With a crisis like that it's no wonder they're moving to a
communist state with shoddy quality control, unethical business
practices, massive human rights violations and near-slave labor.


Like the US meat packing industry, ya mean?


Once those folks in Kansas are laid off, none of them will be buying
Cessnas either. Not exactly Mr. Ford's business model. And you know
the Chinese workers going to buy them either. 'Course, the French
might, what with the value of the Euro over the dollar. It'll be
interesting to hear from them about how the Skycatcher handles,
because I'll probably never fly one.



There ya go. Don't buy one. You got there in the end.


Bertie