Yet Another Cirrus SR22 Crash.

Recently, Larry Dighera posted:

On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 21:08:16 GMT, "Neil Gould" wrote

Gusting at up to 20 kts? That shouldn't have been much of a problem.

I haven't flown a Cirrus, so I have no idea how it handles in a
crosswind.

I know what you mean, but it seems an unlikely factor unless it was about
a 90º crosswind (in which case it might have been a questionable decision
to land).

Another unfortunate loss, and it saddens me that the kids were
victims in this accident.

I guess one of the drawbacks of low-wing aircraft is the inability to
open the cabin doors if it is flipped inverted. And the ballistic
parachute system may be a liability in that situation also.

Excellent point. The more situations like these I hear about, the less
sense a ballistic parachute system makes to me.

Neil

"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
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On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 21:08:16 GMT, "Neil Gould"
wrote in
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Recently, Larry Dighera posted:

FOUR KILLED IN MINNESOTA SR22 CRASH
(http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archive...ll.html#196677)
A Cirrus SR22 was on its second try to land at the Faribault
airport in southern Minnesota on Sunday afternoon when it flipped
over and burst into flames by the side of the runway. All four on
board were killed. The pilot, Dr. Chester W. P. Mayo, 51, was a
descendant of one of the founders of the famed Mayo Clinic. The
others on board were his 17-year-old son and two of his friends,
who were on their way back to school after the holiday. Winds were
gusting at up to 20 knots, but officials weren't speculating as to
whether that was a factor in the crash, and also didn't say why
the pilot had aborted his first landing attempt. The airplane had
departed from Aberdeen, .D. "There's very little left [of the
airplane]," Faribault Police Chief Dan Collins told the Associated
Press

Gusting at up to 20 kts? That shouldn't have been much of a problem.

I haven't flown a Cirrus, so I have no idea how it handles in a
crosswind.

Another unfortunate loss, and it saddens me that the kids were victims in
this accident.

I guess one of the drawbacks of low-wing aircraft is the inability to
open the cabin doors if it is flipped inverted. And the ballistic
parachute system may be a liability in that situation also.



From what I have read the ballistic chute has never gone off due to a crash,
they were always pulled by an occupant.

"Viperdoc" wrote in message
...
I've been holding back on responding to the village idiot, Anthony
Atkielski, but it's simply amazing how insensitive he can be, particularly
considering that he doesn't fly, and couldn't even pass the simple
requirements for a flying physical. Yet, he's critical of others that do
fly- it's his form of penis envy.

He really needs to get a life.


I think he has some kind of borderline personality issue considering the
lack of empathy for others and a grandiose self image. Your mileage may
vary.

Since 2002, the SR22 has been involved in 17 accidents resulting
in 35 deaths, according to the NTSB...

Larry, you seem to be bashing the Cirrus with "Yet Another Cirrus SR22
Crash", but have you checked NTSB for 2007 fatal crashes with a Cirrus?
Only two this year, and first one was a ditching in the ocean (not sure why
he did not use the chute there).

And no, I'm not a Cirrus pilot (30 minutes total in one), but they have done
great in 2007. As Mr. Collins pointed out in one of his articles, take a
look at flightaware and see how they are the most popular GA aircraft in the
IFR system today. Speaks well for Cirrus in 2007.

btw, most of my time is in a A36, looking at the track record for them this
year has average, but when you throw in a loss of a family friend that lost
his life in a A36 crash this year..... the Cirrus is looking better then
the past few years.

Alan.

On Sat, 1 Dec 2007 09:29:57 -0500, "Darkwing"
theducksmail"AT"yahoo.com wrote in
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From what I have read the ballistic chute has never gone off due to a crash,
they were always pulled by an occupant.


Perhaps. But I would be interested in knowing how BRS has managed to
fireproof the explosive charge that deploys their 'chute against
ignition from a fire that almost totally consumes the plastic
aircraft.

alank wrote:

Since 2002, the SR22 has been involved in 17 accidents resulting
in 35 deaths, according to the NTSB...


Larry, you seem to be bashing the Cirrus with "Yet Another Cirrus SR22
Crash", but have you checked NTSB for 2007 fatal crashes with a Cirrus?
Only two this year, and first one was a ditching in the ocean (not sure why
he did not use the chute there).

And no, I'm not a Cirrus pilot (30 minutes total in one), but they have done
great in 2007. As Mr. Collins pointed out in one of his articles, take a
look at flightaware and see how they are the most popular GA aircraft in the
IFR system today. Speaks well for Cirrus in 2007.

btw, most of my time is in a A36, looking at the track record for them this
year has average, but when you throw in a loss of a family friend that lost
his life in a A36 crash this year..... the Cirrus is looking better then
the past few years.

Alan.



As soon as somebody writes an article about how safe the Cirrus is he
will be more than happy to copy and paste it here.

Newps wrote in
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alank wrote:

Since 2002, the SR22 has been involved in 17 accidents resulting
in 35 deaths, according to the NTSB...


Larry, you seem to be bashing the Cirrus with "Yet Another Cirrus
SR22 Crash", but have you checked NTSB for 2007 fatal crashes with a
Cirrus? Only two this year, and first one was a ditching in the ocean
(not sure why he did not use the chute there).

And no, I'm not a Cirrus pilot (30 minutes total in one), but they
have done great in 2007. As Mr. Collins pointed out in one of his
articles, take a look at flightaware and see how they are the most
popular GA aircraft in the IFR system today. Speaks well for Cirrus
in 2007.

btw, most of my time is in a A36, looking at the track record for
them this year has average, but when you throw in a loss of a family
friend that lost his life in a A36 crash this year..... the Cirrus
is looking better then the past few years.

Alan.



As soon as somebody writes an article about how safe the Cirrus is he
will be more than happy to copy and paste it here.



"The Cirrus is safe"


There you go.


Bertie

"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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Newps wrote in
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alank wrote:

Since 2002, the SR22 has been involved in 17 accidents resulting
in 35 deaths, according to the NTSB...


Larry, you seem to be bashing the Cirrus with "Yet Another Cirrus
SR22 Crash", but have you checked NTSB for 2007 fatal crashes with a
Cirrus? Only two this year, and first one was a ditching in the ocean
(not sure why he did not use the chute there).

And no, I'm not a Cirrus pilot (30 minutes total in one), but they
have done great in 2007. As Mr. Collins pointed out in one of his
articles, take a look at flightaware and see how they are the most
popular GA aircraft in the IFR system today. Speaks well for Cirrus
in 2007.

btw, most of my time is in a A36, looking at the track record for
them this year has average, but when you throw in a loss of a family
friend that lost his life in a A36 crash this year..... the Cirrus
is looking better then the past few years.

Alan.



As soon as somebody writes an article about how safe the Cirrus is he
will be more than happy to copy and paste it here.



"The Cirrus is safe"


There you go.


Bertie



As long as you don't have your doctorate.

"Darkwing" theducksmail"AT"yahoo.com wrote in
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"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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Newps wrote in
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alank wrote:

Since 2002, the SR22 has been involved in 17 accidents resulting
in 35 deaths, according to the NTSB...


Larry, you seem to be bashing the Cirrus with "Yet Another Cirrus
SR22 Crash", but have you checked NTSB for 2007 fatal crashes with
a
Cirrus? Only two this year, and first one was a ditching in the
ocean
(not sure why he did not use the chute there).

And no, I'm not a Cirrus pilot (30 minutes total in one), but they
have done great in 2007. As Mr. Collins pointed out in one of his
articles, take a look at flightaware and see how they are the most
popular GA aircraft in the IFR system today. Speaks well for
Cirrus
in 2007.

btw, most of my time is in a A36, looking at the track record for
them this year has average, but when you throw in a loss of a
family
friend that lost his life in a A36 crash this year..... the Cirrus
is looking better then the past few years.

Alan.



As soon as somebody writes an article about how safe the Cirrus is
he
will be more than happy to copy and paste it here.



"The Cirrus is safe"


There you go.


Bertie



As long as you don't have your doctorate.



He heh!

Bertie

Newps,

As soon as somebody writes an article about how safe the Cirrus is he
will be more than happy to copy and paste it here.


And violate another copyright along the way... g

We had another fatal SR20 crash this week in Germany. 82-year old pilot
apparently got in over his head scud running while it turned dark. Hit a
powerline... There's obviously a lot to say, but I won't until the
accident report is out.

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)