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Old October 20th 03, 10:07 AM
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I can't recall hearing any mullah screaming for my blood recently. Or
that of Americans, for that matter.
On the other hand, I've heard plenty of Americans screaming for
theirs. I'm sure there's a conclusion in those observations, but I'll
ignore it for now.


Do you know anyone that disputes Iranian support for Hizbollah? You
remember Hizbollah, the organization that had killed more Americans than
any other terrorist group prior to Sept 11.

Simply being ignorant of the rantings of the Iranian mullahs is not
exactly the same as they not making the threats.


I never said they appreciated the existence of Israel, or that they
didn't support groups dedicated to fighting Israel by unsavoury means.
Nor am I ignorant of the fact that Hizbollah caused considerable US
casualties. What do you expect them to do? Not follow the "supporters
of my enemy are my enemies" doctrine? The US seems to have no problem
with that reasoning.

None of this has any relevance to the fact that in recent years, there
have been no calls for the destruction of the US.

Rob
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Old October 20th 03, 11:27 AM
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I can't recall hearing any mullah screaming for my blood recently. Or
that of Americans, for that matter.


And, then:

None of this has any relevance to the fact that in recent years, there
have been no calls for the destruction of the US.

Rob


I don't think you have been *listening*, Rob. For instance, in
'91...Afghani Mulla (and a Taleban leader) Mohammad Omar
chatted with the BBC. Among other things, he said:

"You (the BBC) and American puppet radios have created concern. But the
current situation in Afghanistan is related to a bigger cause - that is the
destruction of America."

And:

"This is not a matter of weapons. We are hopeful for God's help. The real
matter is the extinction of America. And, God willing, it [America] will
fall to the ground."


Cheers.





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Old October 21st 03, 11:05 AM
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"PosterBoy" wrote in message news:AMOkb.133271$6C4.20947@pd7tw1no...
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I can't recall hearing any mullah screaming for my blood recently. Or
that of Americans, for that matter.


And, then:

None of this has any relevance to the fact that in recent years, there
have been no calls for the destruction of the US.

Rob


I don't think you have been *listening*, Rob. For instance, in
'91...Afghani Mulla (and a Taleban leader) Mohammad Omar
chatted with the BBC. Among other things, he said:

some murederous comments snipped

That was 12 years ago, and in a different country. Things have changed
since then in Iran. There's little doubt the Iranian religious
establishment dislikes the US, but they have become more reasonable
about it, and about many other things as well.

The Taliban decided to stick to the rabid dog act, but they weren't
the subject of this discussion.

Rob
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Old October 22nd 03, 01:24 AM
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I can't recall hearing any mullah screaming for my blood recently.

Or
that of Americans, for that matter.


And, then:

None of this has any relevance to the fact that in recent years, there
have been no calls for the destruction of the US.

Rob


I don't think you have been *listening*, Rob. For instance, in
'91...Afghani Mulla (and a Taleban leader) Mohammad Omar
chatted with the BBC. Among other things, he said:

some murederous comments snipped

That was 12 years ago,


Sorry; my typo, Rob.
It was in November, 2001...not in "'91", as I typed. So definitely "in
recent years." Definitely. And Mullah Krekar is still at it...despite the
Dutch deportation and the Norwegian charges.
Please begin again. (And...you specified no particular country in your
"screaming mullah" remark. I figger when you say "any" you mean "any"...not
some.)

Cheers.


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Old October 22nd 03, 09:11 AM
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"PosterBoy" wrote in message news:h7klb.140399$9l5.84204@pd7tw2no...
Sorry; my typo, Rob.
It was in November, 2001...not in "'91", as I typed. So definitely "in
recent years." Definitely. And Mullah Krekar is still at it...despite the
Dutch deportation and the Norwegian charges.


Like I said, the Taliban never improved their act, and are probably as
bloodthirsty as ever.

Please begin again. (And...you specified no particular country in your
"screaming mullah" remark. I figger when you say "any" you mean "any"...not
some.)


Nope, given the context of the original post I replied to, which was
about Iran, not the muslim world as a whole if such an entity even
exists, my remark meant 'any from the Iranian establishment'. To the
best of my knowledge, that statement is correct, ie. the Iranian
government, including those of religious rank, have over the last
decade become more and more moderate in their relations with the
outside world, and have not been calling for the destruction of the US
or any other nation or group in recent years.

Rob
 




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