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"Robert M. Gary" wrote:

On Dec 4, 10:23 am, "Maxwell" wrote:

I've pondered that a few times myself Ross, and I think I would have to
agree. I think judges do a good job with their experience, but they too
often tend to get too anal with the letter of the law and loose a bit of
their ability to judge. Seems a trained panel could do a better job of
looking at cases from different angles, and reaching the most reasonable
conclusion. The way we select juries today can often be a real turkey shoot.

Think about the type of people who are not excused from jury duty.
Depending on the judge juriors can be excused because they have a lot
going on at work, because they have a business meeting etc. The self-
employed are almost always excused. Especially in a long trial you end
up with welfare moms, state employees, and retirees. Hardly our
peers.

hmmm, not many people get excused from jury duty in taxachusetts.
I sure didn't get excused.

--
Bob Noel
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Bob Noel wrote:
In article ,
"Robert M. Gary" wrote:

On Dec 4, 10:23 am, "Maxwell" wrote:

I've pondered that a few times myself Ross, and I think I would have to
agree. I think judges do a good job with their experience, but they too
often tend to get too anal with the letter of the law and loose a bit of
their ability to judge. Seems a trained panel could do a better job of
looking at cases from different angles, and reaching the most reasonable
conclusion. The way we select juries today can often be a real turkey shoot.

Think about the type of people who are not excused from jury duty.
Depending on the judge juriors can be excused because they have a lot
going on at work, because they have a business meeting etc. The self-
employed are almost always excused. Especially in a long trial you end
up with welfare moms, state employees, and retirees. Hardly our
peers.

hmmm, not many people get excused from jury duty in taxachusetts.
I sure didn't get excused.

Around here hardly anyone ever gets excused from showing up for jury
duty.

Getting past the questioning and actually getting seated on a jury
is a different story.

--
Jim Pennino

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"Robert M. Gary" wrote:

On Dec 4, 10:23 am, "Maxwell" wrote:

I've pondered that a few times myself Ross, and I think I would have to
agree. I think judges do a good job with their experience, but they too
often tend to get too anal with the letter of the law and loose a bit
of
their ability to judge. Seems a trained panel could do a better job of
looking at cases from different angles, and reaching the most
reasonable
conclusion. The way we select juries today can often be a real turkey
shoot.

Think about the type of people who are not excused from jury duty.
Depending on the judge juriors can be excused because they have a lot
going on at work, because they have a business meeting etc. The self-
employed are almost always excused. Especially in a long trial you end
up with welfare moms, state employees, and retirees. Hardly our
peers.

hmmm, not many people get excused from jury duty in taxachusetts.
I sure didn't get excused.

He meant "being empanelled" (?), which is actually sitting on a jury.
Typically, 50-100 people get called for jury DUTY, but only 12 plus 3
reserves actually sit on a jury.

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"Matt W. Barrow" wrote:

hmmm, not many people get excused from jury duty in taxachusetts.
I sure didn't get excused.

He meant "being empanelled" (?), which is actually sitting on a jury.
Typically, 50-100 people get called for jury DUTY, but only 12 plus 3
reserves actually sit on a jury.

I knew what he meant. I've been called to jury duty 4 times in taxachusetts.
The first time was when I was self-employed. It didn't get me excused from
hearing the case, a 5 day trial. The self-employed get screwed since
taxachusetts expects employers to pay employees for the first three days,
and then taxachusetts pays some tiny amount for the remainder.

--
Bob Noel
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In article ,
"Matt W. Barrow" wrote:

hmmm, not many people get excused from jury duty in taxachusetts.
I sure didn't get excused.

He meant "being empanelled" (?), which is actually sitting on a jury.
Typically, 50-100 people get called for jury DUTY, but only 12 plus 3
reserves actually sit on a jury.

I knew what he meant. I've been called to jury duty 4 times in
taxachusetts.
The first time was when I was self-employed. It didn't get me excused
from
hearing the case, a 5 day trial. The self-employed get screwed since
taxachusetts expects employers to pay employees for the first three days,
and then taxachusetts pays some tiny amount for the remainder.


When I was in Colorado, you'd get $7.50 for mileage, regardless of how far
you have to travel. An employer will pay your regular rate for 1-3 days of
jury duty, but if you're a contractor or self-employed, you're SOL.

I didn't get called for 20 years since I stopped registering to vote (1988).
I don't know how they do it in Wyoming.

My wife was called four times in the last 14 years, but never got past the
initial questioning since her brother is a former cop. All jury duty summons
were for criminal court, never civil court.

At least in Colorado, if you're not empanelled by about the middle of the
first day, you go home and don't have to come back.


--
Matt Barrow
Performance Homes, LLC.
Cheyenne, WY

Bob Noel wrote:
In article ,
"Robert M. Gary" wrote:


On Dec 4, 10:23 am, "Maxwell" wrote:


I've pondered that a few times myself Ross, and I think I would have to
agree. I think judges do a good job with their experience, but they too
often tend to get too anal with the letter of the law and loose a bit of
their ability to judge. Seems a trained panel could do a better job of
looking at cases from different angles, and reaching the most reasonable
conclusion. The way we select juries today can often be a real turkey shoot.

Think about the type of people who are not excused from jury duty.
Depending on the judge juriors can be excused because they have a lot
going on at work, because they have a business meeting etc. The self-
employed are almost always excused. Especially in a long trial you end
up with welfare moms, state employees, and retirees. Hardly our
peers.


hmmm, not many people get excused from jury duty in taxachusetts.
I sure didn't get excused.


I see a lot of folks walk up and get excused but I cannot hear why. One
time I was going to ask for an excuse due to lots of work travel. Before
I did the judge gave his talk about duty. I swear I could hear America
the Beautiful playing in the background. After he retired I told him my
story and he laughed. I stayed that day.

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Regards, Ross
C-172F 180HP
KSWI