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Old December 16th 07, 08:03 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Dec 16, 2:42 pm, Jay Honeck wrote:
Suggestions as to appropriate "training" aircraft (beyond the Cessna 150 /
172) would also be appreciated.


A Cherokee 140 is an excellent and inexpensive trainer that can (in a
pinch) carry four people. It also has the advantage of having the
wing on the proper side of the fuselage...

;-)

Additionally, would it be wise to contract a single CFI to do our
instruction? At approximately 50 hours per pupil, they could log a lot of
time. Maybe we could get a small discount?


Sounds like a good idea -- if you can keep everyone in line and on
schedule.

If you can keep a bunch of student pilots focused and organized,
you've got two great opportunities to save money. In my experience,
however, organizing pilots is a lot like herding cats, so you'll have
your work cut out for you...
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


Four people in a Cherokee 140? Are you serious?

Is this a flight school for ants?

Dan McCormack
http://trainingforcfi.blogspot.com/
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Old December 16th 07, 08:06 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_19_]
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" wrote in
:

On Dec 16, 2:42 pm, Jay Honeck wrote:
Suggestions as to appropriate "training" aircraft (beyond the
Cessna 150 / 172) would also be appreciated.


A Cherokee 140 is an excellent and inexpensive trainer that can (in a
pinch) carry four people. It also has the advantage of having the
wing on the proper side of the fuselage...

;-)

Additionally, would it be wise to contract a single CFI to do our
instruction? At approximately 50 hours per pupil, they could log a
lot of time. Maybe we could get a small discount?


Sounds like a good idea -- if you can keep everyone in line and on
schedule.

If you can keep a bunch of student pilots focused and organized,
you've got two great opportunities to save money. In my experience,
however, organizing pilots is a lot like herding cats, so you'll have
your work cut out for you...
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


Four people in a Cherokee 140? Are you serious?



Hey, an even dozen if you pack 'em tight and they're light!

Bertie
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Old December 16th 07, 10:10 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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In article ,
" wrote:

Four people in a Cherokee 140? Are you serious?


a older 140 can have the useful load to carry four people,
especially when you start with the fuel at the tabs. I've even
seen older 140s that have more useful load than a warrior.
Steve Foley had (has?) one with 872lb useful load.

Of course, the two in the back seats won't be super comfortable
since the backseat legroom is a bit cramped. ;-)

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Old December 16th 07, 10:41 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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" wrote:
Four people in a Cherokee 140? Are you serious?


a older 140 can have the useful load to carry four people,
especially when you start with the fuel at the tabs. I've even
seen older 140s that have more useful load than a warrior.
Steve Foley had (has?) one with 872lb useful load.


--
Bob Noel
(goodness, please trim replies!!!)


And how many JATO bottles are used during this takeoff?
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Old December 21st 07, 03:13 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 02:06:03 +0000 (UTC), Bertie the Bunyip
wrote:

"Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe" The Sea Hawk at wow way d0t com wrote in
news:hP6dnUCWgZ8bRfjanZ2dnUVZ_sejnZ2d@wideopenwes t.com:

"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
.. .
" wrote in
news:5a0b505f-2782-433f-
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" wrote:
Four people in a Cherokee 140? Are you serious?


And how many JATO bottles are used during this takeoff?

Two diet coke bottles with Menthos thrown in


Good Golly Dewd, don't you know anything? Diet Vernors is way better
for this than Diet Coke. :-)


You learn something new in usenet every day.

But I don't think the plan was to have all the owners in the plane at
the same time...


Used to do 135 in a cherokee 180 out of a very short strip and it would get
anything out of there you could stuff inside of it!
Not a very pleasant airplane to fly, but they are sturdy and they do go
well.


I did a photo shoot for a couple of owners wayyy back in 1990 (give or
take a year) One had a Cherokee 140 and the other a 180. I shot from
the 180 to start then we landed at a small airport (Standish
Industrial air-park) which is now private. They both used little
runway for landing, but on take off I didn't think the 140 was going
to make it. The 180 was off in a fraction of the distance.

I enjoyed flying a 180 with the old Hershey Bar wing, but after that
really disliked the 140. Except for landing I remember the two as
being quite different animals although they are both quite docile.

I spun the 180 a number of times. It was only later I found the
factory placard was a mistake. :-)) In a fully developed spin proper
inputs would appear to do nothing unless you waited a full turn to
turn and a half and then it'd stop in another half turn.

Roger (K8RI)


Bertie

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Old December 18th 07, 04:01 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 22:44:48 +0000 (UTC), Bertie the Bunyip
wrote:

" wrote in news:5a0b505f-2782-433f-
:


" wrote:
Four people in a Cherokee 140? Are you serious?

a older 140 can have the useful load to carry four people,
especially when you start with the fuel at the tabs. I've even
seen older 140s that have more useful load than a warrior.
Steve Foley had (has?) one with 872lb useful load.


--
Bob Noel
(goodness, please trim replies!!!)


And how many JATO bottles are used during this takeoff?


Two diet coke bottles with Menthos thrown in

Bertie

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No. No. No Bertie

If all four have a large helping of beans before take off, should
break ground (wind) with no problem )

Big John
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Old December 18th 07, 10:02 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_19_]
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Big John wrote in
:

On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 22:44:48 +0000 (UTC), Bertie the Bunyip
wrote:

" wrote in news:5a0b505f-2782-

433f-
:


" wrote:
Four people in a Cherokee 140? Are you serious?

a older 140 can have the useful load to carry four people,
especially when you start with the fuel at the tabs. I've even
seen older 140s that have more useful load than a warrior.
Steve Foley had (has?) one with 872lb useful load.

--
Bob Noel
(goodness, please trim replies!!!)

And how many JATO bottles are used during this takeoff?


Two diet coke bottles with Menthos thrown in

Bertie

**********************************88

No. No. No Bertie

If all four have a large helping of beans before take off, should
break ground (wind) with no problem )



I knew someone would go there!


Bertie
 




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