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On Dec 16, 2:42 pm, Jay Honeck wrote:
Suggestions as to appropriate "training" aircraft (beyond the Cessna 150 / 172) would also be appreciated. A Cherokee 140 is an excellent and inexpensive trainer that can (in a pinch) carry four people. It also has the advantage of having the wing on the proper side of the fuselage... ;-) Additionally, would it be wise to contract a single CFI to do our instruction? At approximately 50 hours per pupil, they could log a lot of time. Maybe we could get a small discount? Sounds like a good idea -- if you can keep everyone in line and on schedule. If you can keep a bunch of student pilots focused and organized, you've got two great opportunities to save money. In my experience, however, organizing pilots is a lot like herding cats, so you'll have your work cut out for you... -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" Four people in a Cherokee 140? Are you serious? Is this a flight school for ants? Dan McCormack http://trainingforcfi.blogspot.com/ |
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" wrote in
: On Dec 16, 2:42 pm, Jay Honeck wrote: Suggestions as to appropriate "training" aircraft (beyond the Cessna 150 / 172) would also be appreciated. A Cherokee 140 is an excellent and inexpensive trainer that can (in a pinch) carry four people. It also has the advantage of having the wing on the proper side of the fuselage... ;-) Additionally, would it be wise to contract a single CFI to do our instruction? At approximately 50 hours per pupil, they could log a lot of time. Maybe we could get a small discount? Sounds like a good idea -- if you can keep everyone in line and on schedule. If you can keep a bunch of student pilots focused and organized, you've got two great opportunities to save money. In my experience, however, organizing pilots is a lot like herding cats, so you'll have your work cut out for you... -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" Four people in a Cherokee 140? Are you serious? Hey, an even dozen if you pack 'em tight and they're light! Bertie |
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" wrote: Four people in a Cherokee 140? Are you serious? a older 140 can have the useful load to carry four people, especially when you start with the fuel at the tabs. I've even seen older 140s that have more useful load than a warrior. Steve Foley had (has?) one with 872lb useful load. Of course, the two in the back seats won't be super comfortable since the backseat legroom is a bit cramped. ;-) -- Bob Noel (goodness, please trim replies!!!) |
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![]() " wrote: Four people in a Cherokee 140? Are you serious? a older 140 can have the useful load to carry four people, especially when you start with the fuel at the tabs. I've even seen older 140s that have more useful load than a warrior. Steve Foley had (has?) one with 872lb useful load. -- Bob Noel (goodness, please trim replies!!!) And how many JATO bottles are used during this takeoff? |
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"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
.. . " wrote in news:5a0b505f-2782-433f- : " wrote: Four people in a Cherokee 140? Are you serious? And how many JATO bottles are used during this takeoff? Two diet coke bottles with Menthos thrown in Good Golly Dewd, don't you know anything? Diet Vernors is way better for this than Diet Coke. :-) But I don't think the plan was to have all the owners in the plane at the same time... -- Geoff The Sea Hawk at Wow Way d0t Com remove spaces and make the obvious substitutions to reply by mail When immigration is outlawed, only outlaws will immigrate. |
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"Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe" The Sea Hawk at wow way d0t com wrote in
news:hP6dnUCWgZ8bRfjanZ2dnUVZ_sejnZ2d@wideopenwest .com: "Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message .. . " wrote in news:5a0b505f-2782-433f- : " wrote: Four people in a Cherokee 140? Are you serious? And how many JATO bottles are used during this takeoff? Two diet coke bottles with Menthos thrown in Good Golly Dewd, don't you know anything? Diet Vernors is way better for this than Diet Coke. :-) You learn something new in usenet every day. But I don't think the plan was to have all the owners in the plane at the same time... Used to do 135 in a cherokee 180 out of a very short strip and it would get anything out of there you could stuff inside of it! Not a very pleasant airplane to fly, but they are sturdy and they do go well. Bertie |
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On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 02:06:03 +0000 (UTC), Bertie the Bunyip
wrote: "Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe" The Sea Hawk at wow way d0t com wrote in news:hP6dnUCWgZ8bRfjanZ2dnUVZ_sejnZ2d@wideopenwes t.com: "Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message .. . " wrote in news:5a0b505f-2782-433f- : " wrote: Four people in a Cherokee 140? Are you serious? And how many JATO bottles are used during this takeoff? Two diet coke bottles with Menthos thrown in Good Golly Dewd, don't you know anything? Diet Vernors is way better for this than Diet Coke. :-) You learn something new in usenet every day. But I don't think the plan was to have all the owners in the plane at the same time... Used to do 135 in a cherokee 180 out of a very short strip and it would get anything out of there you could stuff inside of it! Not a very pleasant airplane to fly, but they are sturdy and they do go well. I did a photo shoot for a couple of owners wayyy back in 1990 (give or take a year) One had a Cherokee 140 and the other a 180. I shot from the 180 to start then we landed at a small airport (Standish Industrial air-park) which is now private. They both used little runway for landing, but on take off I didn't think the 140 was going to make it. The 180 was off in a fraction of the distance. I enjoyed flying a 180 with the old Hershey Bar wing, but after that really disliked the 140. Except for landing I remember the two as being quite different animals although they are both quite docile. I spun the 180 a number of times. It was only later I found the factory placard was a mistake. :-)) In a fully developed spin proper inputs would appear to do nothing unless you waited a full turn to turn and a half and then it'd stop in another half turn. Roger (K8RI) Bertie |
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On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 22:44:48 +0000 (UTC), Bertie the Bunyip
wrote: " wrote in news:5a0b505f-2782-433f- : " wrote: Four people in a Cherokee 140? Are you serious? a older 140 can have the useful load to carry four people, especially when you start with the fuel at the tabs. I've even seen older 140s that have more useful load than a warrior. Steve Foley had (has?) one with 872lb useful load. -- Bob Noel (goodness, please trim replies!!!) And how many JATO bottles are used during this takeoff? Two diet coke bottles with Menthos thrown in Bertie **********************************88 No. No. No Bertie If all four have a large helping of beans before take off, should break ground (wind) with no problem ![]() Big John |
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Big John wrote in
: On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 22:44:48 +0000 (UTC), Bertie the Bunyip wrote: " wrote in news:5a0b505f-2782- 433f- : " wrote: Four people in a Cherokee 140? Are you serious? a older 140 can have the useful load to carry four people, especially when you start with the fuel at the tabs. I've even seen older 140s that have more useful load than a warrior. Steve Foley had (has?) one with 872lb useful load. -- Bob Noel (goodness, please trim replies!!!) And how many JATO bottles are used during this takeoff? Two diet coke bottles with Menthos thrown in Bertie **********************************88 No. No. No Bertie If all four have a large helping of beans before take off, should break ground (wind) with no problem ![]() I knew someone would go there! Bertie |
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