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On Dec 16, 12:11 pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
BillJ writes: I thought I understood everything that could be on a sectional, but before a trip to New York City airspace, I studied the sectional and terminal area charts a little extra carefully. Just southwest of Newark (EWR) (and also other places) there is a notation such as 70/+12 in blue for the floor and ceiling of class B airspace. What does the "+" mean? Above, but not including 1200 feet MSL, presumably (although I've never seen this myself). What is the practical difference between "above, but not including" (e.g., +12) and "above and including" (e.g., 12)? |
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Mxsmanic wrote:
writes: What is the practical difference between "above, but not including" (e.g., +12) and "above and including" (e.g., 12)? I think it serves when you have two airspaces with no margin between them. For exampple, one is 12/SFC, the other is 70/12+. So at 1200 feet you're in one airspace, and at 1201 feet, you're in the other. If they were specified as 11/SFC and 70/12, the space between 1101 feet and 1199 feet inclusive would be outside either airspace. Wrong. Study the TERPS. Again, Anthony, you're a simulator freak, not a pilot of any kind. Your posting of incorrect and misleading answers is a waste of everyone's time. What you "think" is irrelevant. |
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Rip writes:
Wrong. Study the TERPS. Again, Anthony, you're a simulator freak, not a pilot of any kind. Your posting of incorrect and misleading answers is a waste of everyone's time. What you "think" is irrelevant. If I'm incorrect, why don't you provide the correct answer? You waste everyone's time by saying I'm wrong without saying what's right. |
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Mxsmanic wrote in
: Rip writes: Wrong. Study the TERPS. Again, Anthony, you're a simulator freak, not a pilot of any kind. Your posting of incorrect and misleading answers is a waste of everyone's time. What you "think" is irrelevant. If I'm incorrect, why don't you provide the correct answer? You waste everyone's time by saying I'm wrong without saying what's right. Because you don't fly. Bertie |
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On 2007-12-17, Rip wrote:
Mxsmanic wrote: writes: What is the practical difference between "above, but not including" (e.g., +12) and "above and including" (e.g., 12)? I think it serves when you have two airspaces with no margin between them. For exampple, one is 12/SFC, the other is 70/12+. So at 1200 feet you're in one airspace, and at 1201 feet, you're in the other. If they were specified as 11/SFC and 70/12, the space between 1101 feet and 1199 feet inclusive would be outside either airspace. Wrong. Study the TERPS. Again, Anthony, you're a simulator freak, not a pilot of any kind. Your posting of incorrect and misleading answers is a waste of everyone's time. What you "think" is irrelevant. It's easy to put trolls into the kill file. However I haven't found a good way to kill troll fodder like this in SLRN. Any suggestions? -- Doug Carter |
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