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On Dec 16, 6:07 pm, TheSmokingGnu
wrote: Airbus wrote: "Upward from above" is the term used on the TAC. In other words, (IIUC) it means you can operate at 1200 feet talkiing to nobody, while ATC runs a heavy jet 1 foot over your head at 1201, where CBAS begins . . . Good eatin', them CBAS. ;P Yeah, except for those foul-tempered ones with the frickin' laser beams on their heads... |
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WingFlaps writes:
You need to understand the vertical relationship between airspaces. Have a look at a sectional and think about it. Why would you choose to fly on the vertical limit between to airspsaces anyway? I don't know, but if the charts didn't use the + and - notation, you'd be able to, and you'd have a defense for doing so if you were called on it. Clearly, the FAA doesn't want to leave that loophole open. |
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Mxsmanic wrote in
: WingFlaps writes: You need to understand the vertical relationship between airspaces. Have a look at a sectional and think about it. Why would you choose to fly on the vertical limit between to airspsaces anyway? I don't know, I know. Bertie |
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Airbus writes:
In the case you cite, where one ceiling is lower than an overlying floor, the space between is also readable on the chart - usually Class E, which is not uncontrolled airspace. The space between is not specially marked on the chart. It must be inferred from the vertical limits of the surrounding airspaces. Pilots know how to read the charts. Most of them do, in most cases. So do I. Fortunate we are that you do not fly airplanes, and we do not have to worry about sharing the airspace with you and your fuzzy theories. I find it increasingly plausible that many PPLs do not look things up and are undisturbed by their ignorance, but I nevertheless hope that this is not too widespread. |
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Airbus writes:
It is specifically indicated on the chart, in every case. Point me to an example. Class E is usually implied rather than explicit. Although it nominally starts at 14,500 feet MSL, so much of the U.S. is an exception to this that the absence of any marking implies an exceptional floor of 1200 feet AGL. Only Class E that starts at 700 feet, or starts at the surface, or that starts at 1200 feet _and_ is adjacent to Class G, or that starts at some other altitude besides 14,500, is explicitly delimited. So if you see [27] for a Class D airspace and 50/28 for the Class C above it, between 2701 feet and 2799 feet, it's Class E. If you see [27] for the Class D and 50/27+ for the Class C, it's Class D up to 2700 feet inclusive, and Class C from 2701 feet up to 5000 feet inclusive, and Class E and A above, in that order. The above proves the contrary. It doesn't prove anything, since you've given no examples. |
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Airbus writes:
Pretentious prick! I'm simply making an observation. You've just been proven completely wrong. Hardly. You made an unsupported assertion. That's not proof. Your whole fuzzy argument debunked. What was fuzzy about it? Everything you've said over the past twenty posts proven to be the aviation equivalent of a slime mold, and yet you presume to go on about pilots' ignorance. . . I'm more convinced of it each day. It's a bit disappointing. |
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