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Old December 18th 07, 01:33 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
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On Dec 17, 10:26 pm, wrote:
At night, I like the structure of
an instrument approach, but I want the altitude for an emergency glide.
Maybe I shouldn't call it a "practice approach" but by doing so, the
controller knows where I am going and why. He asked me to descend to 2,000
while I am outbound from Ocaro, 13 miles from the runway, for traffic that
is not a threat an clearly visible to me. I say, "If you don't mind, I'd
like to stay higher until Gugwa." Controller says, "I do mind. Descend for
traffic." So if I say "Unable to descend yet. Have traffic visually. Will
maintain seperation." Can I continue on my merry way and ignore his command
that I descend below a safe gliding distance. Or is he going is he going to
report me to the FSDO?


With all that technology and you had an agenda / flight profile of
your own, and you didn't want or need ATC assistance, why even bother
calling in for VFR flight following? Navigate as you see fit and just
call into Hawkins tower.

Allen
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Old December 19th 07, 04:23 AM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
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You're right. I've just always felt like talking to approach was the good
citizen thing to do. But if they don't care about my personal safety
concerns, then maybe I should just operate independently.

Jog by memory. What are my requirements to enter Class D. If I recall, I
just have to make radio contact with the tower. What happens when the tower
is closed.

It's so rare I fly outside the system.


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On Dec 17, 10:26 pm, wrote:
At night, I like the structure of
an instrument approach, but I want the altitude for an emergency glide.
Maybe I shouldn't call it a "practice approach" but by doing so, the
controller knows where I am going and why. He asked me to descend to
2,000
while I am outbound from Ocaro, 13 miles from the runway, for traffic
that
is not a threat an clearly visible to me. I say, "If you don't mind, I'd
like to stay higher until Gugwa." Controller says, "I do mind. Descend
for
traffic." So if I say "Unable to descend yet. Have traffic visually. Will
maintain seperation." Can I continue on my merry way and ignore his
command
that I descend below a safe gliding distance. Or is he going is he going
to
report me to the FSDO?


With all that technology and you had an agenda / flight profile of
your own, and you didn't want or need ATC assistance, why even bother
calling in for VFR flight following? Navigate as you see fit and just
call into Hawkins tower.

Allen



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Old December 19th 07, 06:11 AM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
Jim Macklin
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When the tower is closed, use the tower CTAF, which is the tower freq
[towers with multiple freq, check the AIM.



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. ..
| You're right. I've just always felt like talking to approach was the good
| citizen thing to do. But if they don't care about my personal safety
| concerns, then maybe I should just operate independently.
|
| Jog by memory. What are my requirements to enter Class D. If I recall, I
| just have to make radio contact with the tower. What happens when the
tower
| is closed.
|
| It's so rare I fly outside the system.
|
|
| wrote in message
| ...
| On Dec 17, 10:26 pm, wrote:
| At night, I like the structure of
| an instrument approach, but I want the altitude for an emergency glide.
| Maybe I shouldn't call it a "practice approach" but by doing so, the
| controller knows where I am going and why. He asked me to descend to
| 2,000
| while I am outbound from Ocaro, 13 miles from the runway, for traffic
| that
| is not a threat an clearly visible to me. I say, "If you don't mind,
I'd
| like to stay higher until Gugwa." Controller says, "I do mind. Descend
| for
| traffic." So if I say "Unable to descend yet. Have traffic visually.
Will
| maintain seperation." Can I continue on my merry way and ignore his
| command
| that I descend below a safe gliding distance. Or is he going is he
going
| to
| report me to the FSDO?
|
| With all that technology and you had an agenda / flight profile of
| your own, and you didn't want or need ATC assistance, why even bother
| calling in for VFR flight following? Navigate as you see fit and just
| call into Hawkins tower.
|
| Allen
|
|


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Old December 19th 07, 10:40 AM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
Steven P. McNicoll
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wrote in message
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Jog by memory. What are my requirements to enter Class D. If I recall, I
just have to make radio contact with the tower. What happens when the
tower is closed.


The field is uncontrolled and tower frequency is CTAF.


 




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