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![]() wrote in message ... That's interesting. The GPS 16 approach starts off in Class E then goes into Class C at above 1700 just past the Gugwa (or Brenz) FAF. GUGWA looks to be about 2 miles from the Class C boundary, you don't need to enter Class C airspace at all on that approach. It looks like I could shoot the whole approach without talking to Jackson approach, although it would be very close. That being said, I've always got the feeling that I should be talking to Jackson approach going into Hawkins which is in Class C. I guess that gives me a little bargaining power. However, I have to deal with these controllers all the time and I supposed it's not wise to irritate them in this manner. My whole complaint is that they ignored my very understandable desire to stay within glide distance, which really shouldn't have been a problem for them. It was as though I were inconveniencing them by flying the approach differently, wanting to stay higher until the FAF. Lately, I get the feeling that the Jackson controllers are overwhelmed. I flew in tonight, asked for the GPS 16 VFR by my own navigation and was told "unable" when 20 miles out. What the heck does that mean? Unable to what? I'm flying the whole thing myself VFR. They don't have to do a thing. It could only mean they're unable to provide separation from IFR aircraft in the outer area. So tell them good day and continue with your plans, staying outside of Class C airspace. |
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True, but it cuts it pretty close. But you can't avoid class C shooting the
GPS 34 into the other runway. "Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message ... wrote in message ... That's interesting. The GPS 16 approach starts off in Class E then goes into Class C at above 1700 just past the Gugwa (or Brenz) FAF. GUGWA looks to be about 2 miles from the Class C boundary, you don't need to enter Class C airspace at all on that approach. It looks like I could shoot the whole approach without talking to Jackson approach, although it would be very close. That being said, I've always got the feeling that I should be talking to Jackson approach going into Hawkins which is in Class C. I guess that gives me a little bargaining power. However, I have to deal with these controllers all the time and I supposed it's not wise to irritate them in this manner. My whole complaint is that they ignored my very understandable desire to stay within glide distance, which really shouldn't have been a problem for them. It was as though I were inconveniencing them by flying the approach differently, wanting to stay higher until the FAF. Lately, I get the feeling that the Jackson controllers are overwhelmed. I flew in tonight, asked for the GPS 16 VFR by my own navigation and was told "unable" when 20 miles out. What the heck does that mean? Unable to what? I'm flying the whole thing myself VFR. They don't have to do a thing. It could only mean they're unable to provide separation from IFR aircraft in the outer area. So tell them good day and continue with your plans, staying outside of Class C airspace. |
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On Dec 19, 9:32 am, wrote:
True, but it cuts it pretty close. It's 1.92 NM from GUGWA to the ten mile Class C ring. A three degree glidepath begun at GUGWA would put you at about 1300 MSL at the ten mile ring, 400' below Class C airspace. A constant descent begun at GUGWA so as to reach the MDA at IHUZU would put you about 1500 MSL at the ten mile ring, 200' below Class C airspace. Not close at all. |
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