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Old December 20th 07, 03:46 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Robert M. Gary
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On Dec 19, 7:46 pm, Ron Wanttaja wrote:

"Canceled," I think, in whether they're still going to make new episodes. Lotsa
shows on cable continue to run and just repeat the same shows.


It seems like a pretty popular show to be canceled. Perhaps another
network will purchase it. I can't seem to figure out who makes the
show (that's not uncommon, some networks don't want the production
company to advertise the fact that they produce the show to avoid
confusing people). My brother is a TV producer and has access to a DB
that should tell us what the production company is. It would be
interesting to know if they are shoping it to other venues.

-robert
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Old December 20th 07, 04:10 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Dudley Henriques[_2_]
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Robert M. Gary wrote:
On Dec 19, 7:46 pm, Ron Wanttaja wrote:

"Canceled," I think, in whether they're still going to make new episodes. Lotsa
shows on cable continue to run and just repeat the same shows.


It seems like a pretty popular show to be canceled. Perhaps another
network will purchase it. I can't seem to figure out who makes the
show (that's not uncommon, some networks don't want the production
company to advertise the fact that they produce the show to avoid
confusing people). My brother is a TV producer and has access to a DB
that should tell us what the production company is. It would be
interesting to know if they are shoping it to other venues.

-robert

Actually, from my personal experience this is not surprising to me at all.
The "excitement" of war and aerial combat in particular piqued during
and immediately after WW2. I noticed the changes taking place even then
as I toured the air show circuit with WW2 fighters. You wouldn't
necessarily notice it if outside the aviation community as the changes
have been quite subtle.
Today, especially with young people, primarily young males, ( the show's
main demographic) the interest in air combat is not anywhere near what
it used to be.
This doesn't mean it's gone by a long shot, but even from what I have
seen within my own family, the interest is waning severely.
There is still a cadre of "aficionados" out here for shows like the
dogfights History Channel project, but I fear not a large enough cross
sectional demographic to support such a show for very long.



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Old December 20th 07, 05:35 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Morgans[_2_]
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"Dudley Henriques" wrote

Actually, from my personal experience this is not surprising to me at all.
The "excitement" of war and aerial combat in particular piqued during and
immediately after WW2.


That is an interesting observation.

I had observed that with the Military Channel (formerly the Aviation
Channel) and the History Channel, that many people that were not diehard
aviation finatics had discovered WW II history (and after) and had
discovered the coolness of learning about military aviation.

I noticed the changes taking place even then as I toured the air show
circuit with WW2 fighters. You wouldn't necessarily notice it if outside
the aviation community as the changes have been quite subtle.
Today, especially with young people, primarily young males, ( the show's
main demographic) the interest in air combat is not anywhere near what it
used to be.


Again, I see that many people not excited about it before, have enjoyed
learning more about it.

This doesn't mean it's gone by a long shot, but even from what I have seen
within my own family, the interest is waning severely.
There is still a cadre of "aficionados" out here for shows like the
dogfights History Channel project, but I fear not a large enough cross
sectional demographic to support such a show for very long.


That may be, and probably is, ultimately true. There are not enough people
out there with their heads (and soles) in the clouds. Not enough to support
programming ratings, to keep it as alive as it needs to be, anyway.


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Old December 20th 07, 05:40 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Dudley Henriques[_2_]
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Morgans wrote:
"Dudley Henriques" wrote

Actually, from my personal experience this is not surprising to me at all.
The "excitement" of war and aerial combat in particular piqued during and
immediately after WW2.


That is an interesting observation.

I had observed that with the Military Channel (formerly the Aviation
Channel) and the History Channel, that many people that were not diehard
aviation finatics had discovered WW II history (and after) and had
discovered the coolness of learning about military aviation.

I noticed the changes taking place even then as I toured the air show
circuit with WW2 fighters. You wouldn't necessarily notice it if outside
the aviation community as the changes have been quite subtle.
Today, especially with young people, primarily young males, ( the show's
main demographic) the interest in air combat is not anywhere near what it
used to be.


Again, I see that many people not excited about it before, have enjoyed
learning more about it.

This doesn't mean it's gone by a long shot, but even from what I have seen
within my own family, the interest is waning severely.
There is still a cadre of "aficionados" out here for shows like the
dogfights History Channel project, but I fear not a large enough cross
sectional demographic to support such a show for very long.


That may be, and probably is, ultimately true. There are not enough people
out there with their heads (and soles) in the clouds. Not enough to support
programming ratings, to keep it as alive as it needs to be, anyway.


Basically the issue I think. The ratings game in TV is murderous. Unless
programs like Dogfights develops a cult following almost in real time as
it airs, I don't believe whatever cross sectional demographic that
exists out here now will support it.
I guess time will tell. Whatever happens, it will be quick :-))

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