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Old December 28th 07, 03:20 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
RST Engineering
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Anyone who watched the Bears game on Sunday and saw Brent Fabre say that it
was the coldest game he'd ever played it knows that it was an absolute ice
rink at Midway. You could have set those brakes at a thousand psi and that
sucker would have fancydanced across the ice in that wind.

No chocks, only tiedowns could have kept that aircraft from moving.

Jim

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"aluckyguess" wrote in message
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"Robert M. Gary" wrote in message
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On Dec 27, 1:14 pm, Matt Whiting wrote:
Phil wrote:
I know they call it the Windy City, but this is ridiculous...


http://www.aero-news.net/index.cfm?C...642-d205-411d-...


Phil


What do you want to bet that the brakes weren't set?


That would be odd. Why would the brakes be set if no one was on board?
Makes it a bit tough to tow.

-Robert
I hear chalks fix the problem.




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Old December 28th 07, 06:33 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_19_]
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"RST Engineering" wrote in
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Anyone who watched the Bears game on Sunday and saw Brent Fabre say
that it was the coldest game he'd ever played it knows that it was an
absolute ice rink at Midway. You could have set those brakes at a
thousand psi and that sucker would have fancydanced across the ice in
that wind.



Wel, they would have been set at 3,000 PSI in fact,

No chocks, only tiedowns could have kept that aircraft from moving.


True.

Bertie
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Old December 28th 07, 08:28 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
JGalban via AviationKB.com
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RST Engineering wrote:

No chocks, only tiedowns could have kept that aircraft from moving.


Chocks aren't perfect. At my home field we often get violent downbursts
from thunderstorms in the summer. Peak gusts of 60-70 kts aren't unusual. I
use both chocks and tiedowns, and I've found that after a particularly bad
storm, the chocks were often blown away from wheels and the plane was sitting
slightly sideways with the tiedowns pulled tight.

John Galban=====N4BQ (PA28-180)

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Old December 28th 07, 10:17 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Dec 28, 1:28*pm, "JGalban via AviationKB.com" u32749@uwe wrote:
No chocks, only tiedowns could have kept that aircraft from moving.


* Chocks aren't perfect. *


They may not be perfect but close. The chocks typicaly used on
airlines could have prevented this. There are no provisions for tying
down a jet. The 737 manual does recommend leaving the parking brake
set in windy conditions.



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Old December 28th 07, 11:57 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_19_]
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"F. Baum" wrote in
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On Dec 28, 1:28*pm, "JGalban via AviationKB.com" u32749@uwe wrote:
No chocks, only tiedowns could have kept that aircraft from moving.


* Chocks aren't perfect. *


They may not be perfect but close. The chocks typicaly used on
airlines could have prevented this. There are no provisions for tying
down a jet. The 737 manual does recommend leaving the parking brake
set in windy conditions.


hmm, I think you may be mistaken about the tie down provisions. I've never
seen anthing except the tug/towbar thng you mentioned, but I think some may
have a spot where a ring can be screwed in , maybe where the hardpoints for
the jacks go. I'll ask the guys next chance I get.

Bertie
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Old December 29th 07, 04:57 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Matt Whiting
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F. Baum wrote:
On Dec 28, 1:28 pm, "JGalban via AviationKB.com" u32749@uwe wrote:
No chocks, only tiedowns could have kept that aircraft from moving.

Chocks aren't perfect.


They may not be perfect but close. The chocks typicaly used on
airlines could have prevented this. There are no provisions for tying
down a jet. The 737 manual does recommend leaving the parking brake
set in windy conditions.


Parking brake? Who woulda thunk it? :-)

Matt
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Old December 29th 07, 04:57 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Matt Whiting
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JGalban via AviationKB.com wrote:
RST Engineering wrote:
No chocks, only tiedowns could have kept that aircraft from moving.


Chocks aren't perfect. At my home field we often get violent downbursts
from thunderstorms in the summer. Peak gusts of 60-70 kts aren't unusual. I
use both chocks and tiedowns, and I've found that after a particularly bad
storm, the chocks were often blown away from wheels and the plane was sitting
slightly sideways with the tiedowns pulled tight.


Yes, chocks are temporary restraints and no better on ice than are the
tires and brakes. Tie downs are the only way to go for permanent
restraint (other than a hangar!).

Matt
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Old December 31st 07, 06:20 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
William Hung[_2_]
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On Dec 29, 11:57*am, Matt Whiting wrote:
JGalban via AviationKB.com wrote:
RST Engineering wrote:
No chocks, only tiedowns could have kept that aircraft from moving.


* Chocks aren't perfect. * At my home field we often get violent downbursts
from thunderstorms in the summer. *Peak gusts of 60-70 kts aren't unusual. *I
use both chocks and tiedowns, and I've found that after a particularly bad
storm, the chocks were often blown away from wheels and the plane was sitting
slightly sideways with the tiedowns pulled tight.


Yes, chocks are temporary restraints and no better on ice than are the
tires and brakes. *Tie downs are the only way to go for permanent
restraint (other than a hangar!).

Matt


Do small planes have parking brakes? I don't remember having ever
seen one that I could set the brakes.

Wil
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Old December 31st 07, 06:29 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_19_]
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William Hung wrote in
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On Dec 29, 11:57*am, Matt Whiting wrote:
JGalban via AviationKB.com wrote:
RST Engineering wrote:
No chocks, only tiedowns could have kept that aircraft from
moving.


* Chocks aren't perfect. * At my home field we often get violent
dow

nbursts
from thunderstorms in the summer. *Peak gusts of 60-70 kts aren't
unus

ual. *I
use both chocks and tiedowns, and I've found that after a
particularly b

ad
storm, the chocks were often blown away from wheels and the plane
was si

tting
slightly sideways with the tiedowns pulled tight.


Yes, chocks are temporary restraints and no better on ice than are
the tires and brakes. *Tie downs are the only way to go for permanent
restraint (other than a hangar!).

Matt


Do small planes have parking brakes? I don't remember having ever
seen one that I could set the brakes.


Most modern ones do. Lots of old ones too.


Bertie
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Old December 31st 07, 06:47 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
B A R R Y[_2_]
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William Hung wrote:

Do small planes have parking brakes?


Look closer. G
 




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