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![]() "Bob Noel" wrote in message ... I know how the shuttle de-orbits. Of course you do, I just explained it. My follow-up question was directed at the OP. It should have been clear to you that he had no idea. |
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote: I know how the shuttle de-orbits. Of course you do, I just explained it. oh my, you are so precious. LOL My follow-up question was directed at the OP. It should have been clear to you that he had no idea. Well, I not surprised that you didn't understand the purpose of the question. Have a wonderful New Year. -- Bob Noel (goodness, please trim replies!!!) |
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![]() "Bob Noel" wrote in message ... Well, I not surprised that you didn't understand the purpose of the question. I certaimly understood what you wrote, if your intent was something else you misspoke. Have a wonderful New Year. Likewise! |
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As long as were on the subject of getting into and out of orbit, anyone want
to discuss the space elevator concept? -- Best Regards, Mike http://photoshow.comcast.net/mikenoel "Robert M. Gary" wrote in message ... On Dec 28, 4:05 am, "Oz Lander" wrote: Just watched a show on the Columbis disaster, and a question came to me. Why does the shuttle have to be travelling so fast to re-enter the atmosphere? Think of it this way. The shuttle isn't moving fast, its landing on a fast moving object. Landing on the earth is like a carrier landing, the earth is spinning around and the shuttle has to match to it. -Robert |
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On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 15:52:55 -0700, "Mike Noel" wrote:
As long as were on the subject of getting into and out of orbit, anyone want to discuss the space elevator concept? Great once it's in place (except for the risk from terrorists) but kinda tough to build.... Ron Wanttaja |
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"Mike Noel" wrote:
As long as were on the subject of getting into and out of orbit, anyone want to discuss the space elevator concept? Wont work - the banal music will keep people from using it. |
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Mike Noel wrote:
As long as were on the subject of getting into and out of orbit, anyone want to discuss the space elevator concept? It has been discussed to death on sci.physics, sci.space.policy, sci.space.shuttle and for some strange reason soc.culture.zimbabwe, though a lot of it is babbling drool by Brad Guth and associates. -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply. |
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On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 07:34:38 -0500, Bob Noel
wrote: In article , "Oz Lander" wrote: How do you propose to slow the shuttle down from orbital velocity? That I guess answers my question then. I was not aware that such high speeds were required to just stay in orbit. What would it take to slow the shuttle down whilst in orbit, enough to allow it to re-enter at a slower speed? They can slow down, but the more they slow down the steeper the re-entry and the more power it would take to slow them at that stage. Currently they slow just enough to drop out of orbit. Orbital speed doesn't let them break free of earth's gravitational field. They are continually falling around the earth. It would require a large amount of fuel, way more than we can currently afford to put into orbit. Or even have the technology to lift. Yup. Just think of a take off in reverse. They'd need enough fuel to do the opposite of the take off which means they'd have to put everything they now use for a takeoff, into orbit. They'd have to use many times the fuel they now use to launch that extra weight. Much of the initial lifting is done with those large solid propellant boosters so they'd need to launch not only every thing they do now, they'd need to power to put the shuttle, an external fuel tank, and two boosters into orbit. It sorta makes those old sci-fi movies where they used retro-rockets to land appear in a different light. We don't have that kind of power...yet. :-)) Roger (K8RI) |
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John Smith wrote in
: In article , "Mike Noel" wrote: As long as were on the subject of getting into and out of orbit, anyone want to discuss the space elevator concept? What is going to be used as the counter-mass in space? Is someone going to trap the proper sized rock in the asteroid belt and haul it back to the desired Earth orbit to attach to the top of the elevator tube? We could use anthony. We'd have to check as to his exact mass, but I bet it's in the ballpark. Bertie |
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Ron Wanttaja wrote:
Until we develop antigravity, or highly-efficient engines that can put out the thrust levels needed to hover, we're stuck with the high-speed reentry process. Ron Wanttaja An excellent explanaition. Thankyou!;-) -- Oz Lander. Straight and Level Down Under Forum. http://www.straightandleveldownunder.net |
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