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Old January 3rd 08, 04:32 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Robert M. Gary
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On Jan 2, 7:46*pm, "Private" wrote:
allowing guns in cockpits

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=27647


It really doesn't make much difference if the airlines they work for
don't allow guns in the cockpit.

-Robert
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Old January 3rd 08, 12:13 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Denny
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On Jan 2, 11:32*pm, "Robert M. Gary" wrote:
On Jan 2, 7:46*pm, "Private" wrote:

allowing guns in cockpits


http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=27647


It really doesn't make much difference if the airlines they work for
don't allow guns in the cockpit.

-Robert


On my airline the passengers are expected to provide their own gun and
bottle, because the pilot doesn't share...

denny
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Old January 8th 08, 07:55 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Robert M. Gary
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Default allowing guns in cockpits

On Jan 3, 4:13*am, Denny wrote:
On Jan 2, 11:32*pm, "Robert M. Gary" wrote:

On Jan 2, 7:46*pm, "Private" wrote:


allowing guns in cockpits


http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=27647


It really doesn't make much difference if the airlines they work for
don't allow guns in the cockpit.


-Robert


On my airline the passengers are expected to provide their own gun and
bottle, because the pilot doesn't share...


Call me crazy but I'm still of the believe that if good, honest
citizens were allowed to carry guns criminals would not feel so
empowered to comment the types of weapons crimes we see today. When a
city passes a law that guarantees that good citizens will not have
guns the criminals get a free pass. I know some liberal who has never
touched a gun before will find this offensive but the truth isn't
always pretty.

-Robert
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Old January 8th 08, 08:06 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_19_]
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"Robert M. Gary" wrote in news:0fea4faf-0ee7-4edb-bd8f-
:

On Jan 3, 4:13*am, Denny wrote:
On Jan 2, 11:32*pm, "Robert M. Gary" wrote:

On Jan 2, 7:46*pm, "Private" wrote:


allowing guns in cockpits


http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=27647

It really doesn't make much difference if the airlines they work for
don't allow guns in the cockpit.


-Robert


On my airline the passengers are expected to provide their own gun and
bottle, because the pilot doesn't share...


Call me crazy but I'm still of the believe that if good, honest
citizens were allowed to carry guns criminals would not feel so
empowered to comment the types of weapons crimes we see today. When a
city passes a law that guarantees that good citizens will not have
guns the criminals get a free pass. I know some liberal who has never
touched a gun before will find this offensive but the truth isn't
always pretty.


Well, I've touched more than a few guns and still own one, but I think
you're wrong.I've also been in some parts of the world where guns are more
commonplace ( well,. more visible) than in the US and they are very very
dangerous places indeed. They also have death penalty laws for just about
everything and all that appears to do is ensure that any crime is a matter
of life or death for the perpetrator thus giving him nothing to lose by
kicking it up a notch. I'm no bleeding heart, BTW. I only want what works.


Bertie
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Old January 9th 08, 05:10 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Robert M. Gary
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Default allowing guns in cockpits

On Jan 8, 12:06*pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
"Robert M. Gary" wrote in news:0fea4faf-0ee7-4edb-bd8f-
:





On Jan 3, 4:13*am, Denny wrote:
On Jan 2, 11:32*pm, "Robert M. Gary" wrote:


On Jan 2, 7:46*pm, "Private" wrote:


allowing guns in cockpits


http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=27647


It really doesn't make much difference if the airlines they work for
don't allow guns in the cockpit.


-Robert


On my airline the passengers are expected to provide their own gun and
bottle, because the pilot doesn't share...


Call me crazy but I'm still of the believe that if good, honest
citizens were allowed to carry guns criminals would not feel so
empowered to comment the types of weapons crimes we see today. When a
city passes a law that guarantees that good citizens will not have
guns the criminals get a free pass. I know some liberal who has never
touched a gun before will find this offensive but the truth isn't
always pretty.


Well, I've touched more than a few guns and still own one, but I think
you're wrong.I've also been in some parts of the world where guns are more
commonplace ( well,. more visible) than in the US and they are very very
dangerous places indeed. They also have death penalty laws for just about
everything and all that appears to do is ensure that any crime is a matter
of life or death for the perpetrator thus giving him nothing to lose by
kicking it up a notch. I'm no bleeding heart, BTW. I only want what works.


I saw a saying the other day that went something like this "to say
that guns kill people is like saying pencils cause misspelling".

-Robert
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Old January 9th 08, 01:41 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_19_]
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"Robert M. Gary" wrote in
:

On Jan 8, 12:06*pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
"Robert M. Gary" wrote in
news:0fea4faf-0ee7-4edb-bd8f-


:





On Jan 3, 4:13*am, Denny wrote:
On Jan 2, 11:32*pm, "Robert M. Gary" wrote:


On Jan 2, 7:46*pm, "Private" wrote:


allowing guns in cockpits


http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=27647


It really doesn't make much difference if the airlines they work
for don't allow guns in the cockpit.


-Robert


On my airline the passengers are expected to provide their own gun
and bottle, because the pilot doesn't share...


Call me crazy but I'm still of the believe that if good, honest
citizens were allowed to carry guns criminals would not feel so
empowered to comment the types of weapons crimes we see today. When
a city passes a law that guarantees that good citizens will not
have guns the criminals get a free pass. I know some liberal who
has never touched a gun before will find this offensive but the
truth isn't always pretty.


Well, I've touched more than a few guns and still own one, but I
think you're wrong.I've also been in some parts of the world where
guns are more


commonplace ( well,. more visible) than in the US and they are very
very dangerous places indeed. They also have death penalty laws for
just about everything and all that appears to do is ensure that any
crime is a matter


of life or death for the perpetrator thus giving him nothing to lose
by kicking it up a notch. I'm no bleeding heart, BTW. I only want
what works.



I saw a saying the other day that went something like this "to say
that guns kill people is like saying pencils cause misspelling".


Well, it was more the laws I was addressing. The high availability of
guns was the problem there, but the ferociously high violent crime rate
( not as high as the US, but close) also involved machetes and knives.
The laws were so brutal that life became very cheap and it's only
getting worse.


Bertie
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Old January 8th 08, 08:11 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Gig 601XL Builder[_2_]
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Default allowing guns in cockpits

Robert M. Gary wrote:

Call me crazy but I'm still of the believe that if good, honest
citizens were allowed to carry guns criminals would not feel so
empowered to comment the types of weapons crimes we see today. When a
city passes a law that guarantees that good citizens will not have
guns the criminals get a free pass. I know some liberal who has never
touched a gun before will find this offensive but the truth isn't
always pretty.

-Robert


And perfectly good academic research backs up your belief.
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Old January 8th 08, 08:13 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_19_]
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Gig 601XL Builder wrote in news:13o7m1soscj2k18
@news.supernews.com:

Robert M. Gary wrote:

Call me crazy but I'm still of the believe that if good, honest
citizens were allowed to carry guns criminals would not feel so
empowered to comment the types of weapons crimes we see today. When a
city passes a law that guarantees that good citizens will not have
guns the criminals get a free pass. I know some liberal who has never
touched a gun before will find this offensive but the truth isn't
always pretty.

-Robert


And perfectly good academic research backs up your belief.


Oh good grief.


Bertie
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Old January 9th 08, 11:10 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Veeduber
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On Jan 8, 12:11 pm, Gig 601XL Builder
wrote:

And perfectly good academic research backs up your belief.


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Personal experience, too.

After Arizona passed its concealed carry law in the early 1990's their
precipitous drop in certain types of crime was matched by a rise in
those statistics here in southern California as the perps sought less
dangerous hunting grounds. Of course, the bleeding hearts insist that
can't be right... :-)

-R.S.Hoover
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Old January 9th 08, 02:39 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_19_]
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Default allowing guns in cockpits

Veeduber wrote in
:

On Jan 8, 12:11 pm, Gig 601XL Builder
wrote:

And perfectly good academic research backs up your belief.


-----------------------------------------------------------------------
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Personal experience, too.

After Arizona passed its concealed carry law in the early 1990's their
precipitous drop in certain types of crime was matched by a rise in
those statistics here in southern California as the perps sought less
dangerous hunting grounds. Of course, the bleeding hearts insist that
can't be right... :-)



I'm not a bleeding heart . I have a gun and I would use it if I had to.
but arming every second asshole on the streets is not a way to stem violent
crime.



Bertie
 




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