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Old October 25th 03, 10:03 AM
Cub Driver
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Money to save USA from Troubles in Iraq? No Thanks we have more serious way
to spend our money... For example to build a common European defence to
definitively kill NATO.


For fifty years, the U.S. poured men & money into Europe. If you have
not created a credible military force in half a century, when will you
ever manage it?


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Old October 25th 03, 03:10 PM
Emmanuel.Gustin
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Cub Driver wrote:

: For fifty years, the U.S. poured men & money into Europe. If you have
: not created a credible military force in half a century, when will you
: ever manage it?

About now, apparently. Decades of pleas from US
presidents to achieve a stronger European defence
have failed to achieve what the hostile behaviour
of this US administration towards its former allies
has produced: A serious drive to come towards an
European defence. Actively sabotaged from Washington,
of course, but one can't have everything...

Emmanuel Gustin

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Old October 26th 03, 03:28 PM
Alan Minyard
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On 25 Oct 2003 14:10:32 GMT, "Emmanuel.Gustin" wrote:

Cub Driver wrote:

: For fifty years, the U.S. poured men & money into Europe. If you have
: not created a credible military force in half a century, when will you
: ever manage it?

About now, apparently. Decades of pleas from US
presidents to achieve a stronger European defence
have failed to achieve what the hostile behaviour
of this US administration towards its former allies
has produced: A serious drive to come towards an
European defence. Actively sabotaged from Washington,
of course, but one can't have everything...

Emmanuel Gustin


He said "credible". Forces made up of different systems/units
from a collection of small, ineffective forces is not "credible",
especially when directed by committees of committees.

Al Minyard
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Old October 25th 03, 05:47 PM
Peter Kemp
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On or about Sat, 25 Oct 2003 05:03:04 -0400, Cub Driver
allegedly uttered:



Money to save USA from Troubles in Iraq? No Thanks we have more serious way
to spend our money... For example to build a common European defence to
definitively kill NATO.


For fifty years, the U.S. poured men & money into Europe. If you have
not created a credible military force in half a century, when will you
ever manage it?


If there are no creditable forces in the European parts of NATO, then
why is the US asking for their troops, and indeed assigning two of the
four zones of Iraq to European command?

A quarter of the forces in OIF were British, and even some of the
USMC was under UK command, despite the statements post Mogadishu that
no US troops would ever be under foreign command again.

Consistency please, consistency.
---
Peter Kemp

Life is short - Drink Faster
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Old October 26th 03, 01:33 AM
Chad Irby
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In article ,
Peter Kemp peter_n_kempathotmaildotcom@ wrote:

If there are no creditable forces in the European parts of NATO, then
why is the US asking for their troops, and indeed assigning two of the
four zones of Iraq to European command?


To try and get them to shut the hell up about how awful we are for
ousting Hussein...

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cirby at cfl.rr.com

Remember: Objects in rearview mirror may be hallucinations.
Slam on brakes accordingly.
 




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