Tricky examiners

On Fri, 4 Jan 2008 20:54:16 +1100, dVaridel wrote:

As the PIC you aren't allowed below 500' (unless taking off, landing,
training for a rating or crashing), and you have shown poor judgement in
allowing your "passenger" to goad you into low flying.

I don't know how they do it in Oz, but up here you get to pick your own
examiner. These people derive reasonable income from their exam fees.

If an examiner gets a reputation for being too tough (or being too much of
a dick), the word gets out and nobody uses them.

Pilot examiners have to walk a fine line between being desirable to flight
schools and tough enough to filter out candidates that are not qualified.


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Dallas

On Jan 5, 8:31 am, Dallas wrote:
On Fri, 4 Jan 2008 20:54:16 +1100, dVaridel wrote:
As the PIC you aren't allowed below 500' (unless taking off, landing,
training for a rating or crashing), and you have shown poor judgement in
allowing your "passenger" to goad you into low flying.

I don't know how they do it in Oz, but up here you get to pick your own
examiner. These people derive reasonable income from their exam fees.

If an examiner gets a reputation for being too tough (or being too much of
a dick), the word gets out and nobody uses them.

Pilot examiners have to walk a fine line between being desirable to flight
schools and tough enough to filter out candidates that are not qualified.


When I did my PPL flight test I had a run through with the examiner
who was an "A" Cat who owned the other flying school.
He continued the forced landing exercise right down to the deck to see
if I'd get in.
Take up gliding folks, you get pretty good at forced landings :-)
The actual flight test was a breeze

Dallas writes:

I don't know how they do it in Oz, but up here you get to pick your own
examiner. These people derive reasonable income from their exam fees.

If an examiner gets a reputation for being too tough (or being too much of
a dick), the word gets out and nobody uses them.

Pilot examiners have to walk a fine line between being desirable to flight
schools and tough enough to filter out candidates that are not qualified.

Obviously they are motivated to not be too tough, but what consequences do
they risk if they just let everyone pass?

Mxsmanic wrote:


Obviously they are motivated to not be too tough, but what consequences do
they risk if they just let everyone pass?

I have no doubt that you aren't going to understand this but I'll write
it anyway.

Most people when put in a position of public trust will do what they can
to live up to that trust.

Gig601XLBuilder wrote:
Mxsmanic wrote:


Obviously they are motivated to not be too tough, but what consequences do
they risk if they just let everyone pass?

I have no doubt that you aren't going to understand this but I'll write
it anyway.

Most people when put in a position of public trust will do what they can
to live up to that trust.

You are correct; not a snowball's chance in hell he will understand
what you are talking about.

Maybe if Microsoft releases an Ethics and Values Simulator he will get
a clue.

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Jim Pennino

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On Fri, 04 Jan 2008 15:49:37 -0600, Gig601XLBuilder wrote:

Most people when put in a position of public trust will do what they can
to live up to that trust.

This is strictly hearsay, but I recall my CFI saying that if one of the
candidates that the DPE passed ruins his whole day due to poor airmanship
it is reflected in that DPE's FAA files.

I have no idea how accurate this statement is.

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Dallas

On Fri, 4 Jan 2008 17:58:39 -0600, Dallas
wrote:

On Fri, 04 Jan 2008 15:49:37 -0600, Gig601XLBuilder wrote:

Most people when put in a position of public trust will do what they can
to live up to that trust.

This is strictly hearsay, but I recall my CFI saying that if one of the
candidates that the DPE passed ruins his whole day due to poor airmanship
it is reflected in that DPE's FAA files.

I have no idea how accurate this statement is.

I've heard the same, along with the CFI "owning" you for 3 years.

As I hear it, if you screw up, both the CFI and DPE can be interviewed
during a specified time period after the certificate issuance.

Gig601XLBuilder writes:

Most people when put in a position of public trust will do what they can
to live up to that trust.

Unless, of course, they are being paid to be "not too tough."

Mxsmanic wrote:
Gig601XLBuilder writes:

Most people when put in a position of public trust will do what they can
to live up to that trust.

Unless, of course, they are being paid to be "not too tough."

Bingo, Gig601XLBuilder was right, he didn't understand it.

Though would we really expect an asocial misfit to understand things
like ethics and a sense of responsibility?

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Jim Pennino

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Mxsmanic wrote:
Gig601XLBuilder writes:

Most people when put in a position of public trust will do what they can
to live up to that trust.

Unless, of course, they are being paid to be "not too tough."

You have just made a statement saying one or more DPE are excepting
bribes to bass students. Do you have any evidence of such?