Cleveland...Or Tost?

wrote:
On Jan 3, 6:42 pm, hans wrote:
Schempp-Hirth and Lange offer now the Beringer brakeshttp://www.beringer.fr/

Thanks Hans for pointing this out. The Beringer is the best setup
I've had on any sailplane - light, great stopping power, beautifully
made. That said, it is a fair bit of work to replace an existing wheel
brake assembly.

If it was so easy to engineer, you wouldn't need to replace yours...

Hope that's helpful !
Best Regards, Dave "YO"


Photos of the new HpH 304S suggest it also has the Beringer brake.

The Beringer design does appear to better protected against rocks,
runway edges, etc. than the Cleveland brake.

wrote:

What Al said.

Cleveland brake is reliable, parts are readily available and braking
power is unsurpassed. I believe everything AS-W since the -20B came
with 500x5 Cleveland and I retrofitted one to my AS-W12 as well.

After reading Tim's post my partners and I are seriously considering
installing a Tost kit on our 1979 Twin Astir (the original retractable).
Has anyone out there installed one of these kits on any ship ? On a
Twin Astir? Hearing about your experience both with installation and
performance would be very helpful. Would you recommend having an A&E do
the job, or can it be handled by enthusiastic amateurs?

Thanks,

Al
Tim Mara wrote:
after reading many of the responses to your message, typically never 100%
correct, what most don't realize is that most of the TOST Hydraulic brake
systems are, and most of the system parts used by the glider manufacturers
supplied to them by TOST are in fact......"Cleveland" Brake parts.....only
with some modifications by TOST, usually to change the fluid type to(DOT 4
brake fluid rather tan Hydraulic fluid)...What TOST has done has assemble
the brakes along with the brake components to make up the kit that is used
on gliders.
see my website page for some available kits on
http://www.wingsandwheels.com/page32.htm
tim

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"Paul Hanson" wrote in message
...

A Happy New Year to All! I am thinking about getting
a hydraulic disc conversion wheel/brake for my SZD-59.
I have not heard anything bad about Cleveland setups,
and have not anything bad the Tost equivalents either.
Both setups can/have been done. Both being about the
same price (read expensive), and both the same amount
of work to install, naturally I want the better of
the two. I hope this is not a religious war subject,
I just want to hear more opinions and I know there
are a few of those here...

Paul Hanson
"Do the usual, unusually well"--Len Niemi