"socialist" when describing Hillary Clinton

"Thomas Borchert" wrote
Creationist - We have no idea what was in the beginning, so we make up
this cozy feeling fairy tale with a bearded guy in it, then we go and
kill or oppress people by the gazillions supposedly in the name of that
guy, but really for our personal gain, be it economic, political or
otherwise.

This is an inflammatory statement that does not reflect the views of
Creationists, however, debates on the subject normally lower to this level
of name calling very quickly. I don't take offence. In the 'Christian'
newsgroup I hang out in this topic is hotly 'debated' twice a year or so.
No resolution, just a whole lot of yadda yadda.


Scientist - We have no idea what was in the beginning, we'll keep trying
to make sense of it, but still have no idea, and that's a good thing,
too, because "We don't know" is an answer we can not only live with, but
one we wholeheartedly embrace.

If only all non-Creationists stated it this way. Most try to prove that
they have "The Answer" (tm).

Now, what sort of plane do you fly? I'm still stuck in a Warrior but the
school has installed an autopilot so I get to do a little sight-seeing!


David
--
I was reading the dictionary the other day. I thought it was a poem about
everything.

"dVaridel" wrote in
u:

"Thomas Borchert" wrote
Creationist - We have no idea what was in the beginning, so we make
up this cozy feeling fairy tale with a bearded guy in it, then we go
and kill or oppress people by the gazillions supposedly in the name
of that guy, but really for our personal gain, be it economic,
political or otherwise.

This is an inflammatory statement that does not reflect the views of
Creationists, however, debates on the subject normally lower to this
level of name calling very quickly. I don't take offence. In the
'Christian' newsgroup I hang out in this topic is hotly 'debated'
twice a year or so. No resolution, just a whole lot of yadda yadda.


Scientist - We have no idea what was in the beginning, we'll keep
trying to make sense of it, but still have no idea, and that's a good
thing, too, because "We don't know" is an answer we can not only live
with, but one we wholeheartedly embrace.

If only all non-Creationists stated it this way. Most try to prove
that they have "The Answer" (tm).

(tm) by christians, eh?



Bertie

DVaridel,

Now, what sort of plane do you fly?


Socata TB-10 Tobago. Wider cabin than a Bo, but sadly, neither the
engine power nor the speed.

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

"Thomas Borchert" wrote
DVaridel,
Now, what sort of plane do you fly?

Socata TB-10 Tobago. Wider cabin than a Bo, but sadly, neither the
engine power nor the speed.

Cool - a couple of aero clubs in Sydney stocked up on the "TB" series in the
90's, but I haven't seen them down here in Melbourne.

Please pardon my ignorance (being new around here) but I'm unfamiliar with
"Bo". Oh, and while I'm 'fessing up, I've assumed "OP" (separate threads)
is Other Pilot?


David

--
There's a fine line between fishing and standing on the shore like an idiot.

DVaridel,

Please pardon my ignorance (being new around here) but I'm unfamiliar with
"Bo". Oh, and while I'm 'fessing up, I've assumed "OP" (separate threads)
is Other Pilot?


Bo is short for the Beechcraft Bonanza. OP is usenet speak for "original
poster".

There are several TB owners from Australia at www.socata.org, some from
Melbourne, IIRC (if I recall correctly).

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

Recently, dVaridel posted:

"Thomas Borchert" wrote
Creationist - We have no idea what was in the beginning, so we make
up this cozy feeling fairy tale with a bearded guy in it, then we go
and kill or oppress people by the gazillions supposedly in the name
of that guy, but really for our personal gain, be it economic,
political or otherwise.

This is an inflammatory statement that does not reflect the views of
Creationists, however, debates on the subject normally lower to this
level of name calling very quickly.

As it does reflect the behaviours of Creationists, Christian and
otherwise, if it doesn't reflect the views of that population it only
raises questions about their hypocrasy.

Scientist - We have no idea what was in the beginning, we'll keep
trying to make sense of it, but still have no idea, and that's a
good thing, too, because "We don't know" is an answer we can not
only live with, but one we wholeheartedly embrace.

If only all non-Creationists stated it this way. Most try to prove
that they have "The Answer" (tm).

According to whom, Creationists? Scientists make no such claim.

Now, what sort of plane do you fly? I'm still stuck in a Warrior but
the school has installed an autopilot so I get to do a little
sight-seeing!

I happen to like Warriors, as I'm not in much of a hurry. Our club is
acquiring a couple of Cirrus SR-22s, and I'm not all that interested in
them. We also have a few (Bo)nanzas (to answer another poster's question
about "Bo"), and I have yet to go up in those either.

Neil

"Neil Gould" wrote
Recently, dVaridel posted:
If only all non-Creationists stated it this way. Most try to prove
that they have "The Answer" (tm).

According to whom, Creationists? Scientists make no such claim.

No, thrown at me when I adopt a "Creationist" (for lack of a better term)
position in a discussion. The "Not-Creationists" (admittedly not
"Scientists" either) try to tell me that science can supply answers to the
big questions - like where did we come from etc..

The point I was trying to make a few posts back was that I like the
Scientist as an enquiring mind approach.


I happen to like Warriors, as I'm not in much of a hurry. Our club is
acquiring a couple of Cirrus SR-22s, and I'm not all that interested in
them. We also have a few (Bo)nanzas (to answer another poster's question
about "Bo"), and I have yet to go up in those either.

Yeah, I like my Warrior too ...... thought they seem to have shrunk in the
25 years since I first "graduated" to one (from C150/152's) :-)


Cheers,

David

--
Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it.

Recently, dVaridel posted:

"Neil Gould" wrote
Recently, dVaridel posted:
If only all non-Creationists stated it this way. Most try to prove
that they have "The Answer" (tm).

According to whom, Creationists? Scientists make no such claim.

No, thrown at me when I adopt a "Creationist" (for lack of a better
term) position in a discussion. The "Not-Creationists" (admittedly
not "Scientists" either) try to tell me that science can supply
answers to the big questions - like where did we come from etc..

A lot depends on what you (or they) meant by "...come from..." For
example, we "come from" the same material that makes up the rest of the
known universe, and that can be demonstrated scientifically. On the other
hand, what makes us "we" in the sense of our consciousness is not
currently testable, so while it may be a curiosity that interests some
scientists, I know of none that would claim to have the answer to that
"big question".

The point I was trying to make a few posts back was that I like the
Scientist as an enquiring mind approach.

That is the only approach consistent with the scientific method.

Regards,

Neil

"dVaridel" wrote in
u:

"Neil Gould" wrote
Recently, dVaridel posted:
If only all non-Creationists stated it this way. Most try to prove
that they have "The Answer" (tm).

According to whom, Creationists? Scientists make no such claim.

No, thrown at me when I adopt a "Creationist" (for lack of a better
term) position in a discussion. The "Not-Creationists" (admittedly
not "Scientists" either) try to tell me that science can supply
answers to the big questions - like where did we come from etc..


KIf they're not sicentists, then what's your beef?


The point I was trying to make a few posts back was that I like the
Scientist as an enquiring mind approach.



You are like a scinetist or you like the scientific aproach?


Bertie

"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote
"dVaridel" wrote in
KIf they're not sicentists, then what's your beef?

No beef, just adding my 2c (US$0.0178).


The point I was trying to make a few posts back was that I like the
Scientist as an enquiring mind approach.

You are like a scinetist or you like the scientific aproach?

For the record I am like a salesman, however, I like the scientific
approach.


David

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We had a quicksand box in our backyard. I was an only child, eventually.