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Old January 22nd 08, 06:44 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Robert M. Gary
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On Jan 22, 10:30*am, Mxsmanic wrote:
Robert M. Gary writes:
If he eats some he could lose consciousness. He said he was on a
school bus once and some kids in the row in front of him opened a bag
of nuts. He broke out in hives. I'm not sure how limiting the hives
are to PIC. Apparently peanuts give of a dust that some are very
allergic to (learn something new everyday). He did use a spoon once
that had been used for peanut butter and apparently not cleaned well
enough and he dropped to the floor.


Allergic reactions can also be psychogenic, which bodes even worse for
obtaining a medical.


No, when they test you for allergies they don't tell you which part of
the skin they put which allergen. It would be pretty tough to only
break out in certain areas.

-Robert
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Old January 22nd 08, 07:05 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Mxsmanic
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Default Medical and severe allergies

Robert M. Gary writes:

No, when they test you for allergies they don't tell you which part of
the skin they put which allergen. It would be pretty tough to only
break out in certain areas.


True, but when you see someone open a bag of nuts, you know that the allergen
is at least theoretically present. Asthma, for example, is famous for being
an allergy that can be triggered not only by actual exposure to allergens but
also psychogenically, and allergic reactions in general are in a category of
physiological responses that are strongly influenced by emotion and mental
state.

In any case, if a person develops a dangerous allergic reaction just by having
a bag of peanuts opened nearby, it does not bode well for a medical, as I've
indicated, because, as others have pointed out, the previous person in the
aircraft could have eaten peanuts or a Snickers bar, and so on. Someone that
sensitive can scarcely risk walking down the street or going into any public
place.
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Old January 22nd 08, 07:11 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Robert M. Gary
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Default Medical and severe allergies

On Jan 22, 11:05*am, Mxsmanic wrote:
Robert M. Gary writes:
No, when they test you for allergies they don't tell you which part of
the skin they put which allergen. It would be pretty tough to only
break out in certain areas.


True, but when you see someone open a bag of nuts, you know that the allergen
is at least theoretically present. *Asthma, for example, is famous for being
an allergy that can be triggered not only by actual exposure to allergens but
also psychogenically, and allergic reactions in general are in a category of
physiological responses that are strongly influenced by emotion and mental
state.


He didn't learn about the peanuts until after he broke out. Thiis is
not a rare thing, in fact its very common. If you notice in the story
when you buy cookies there will be a warning label of the factory also
has nuts. Some restaurants also have warning signs.

In any case, if a person develops a dangerous allergic reaction just by having
a bag of peanuts opened nearby, it does not bode well for a medical, as I've
indicated, because, as others have pointed out, the previous person in the
aircraft could have eaten peanuts or a Snickers bar, and so on. *Someone that
sensitive can scarcely risk walking down the street or going into any public
place.


But he would react during the preflight, not in flight. It is hard for
him to be in public. He wasn't able to go to public school or ride
public transportation later.

-Robet

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Old January 22nd 08, 08:29 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Mxsmanic
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Default Medical and severe allergies

Robert M. Gary writes:

He didn't learn about the peanuts until after he broke out. Thiis is
not a rare thing, in fact its very common. If you notice in the story
when you buy cookies there will be a warning label of the factory also
has nuts. Some restaurants also have warning signs.


Mainly because of liability issues. Ten or twenty years ago, it was sulfite
reactions. Every generation has its popular ailments. The only constant
trend is an ever-increasing fear of everything.

But he would react during the preflight, not in flight.


But can he be sure of that? Allergic reactions don't always occur
immediately. What if there is peanut dust in the cockpit, and it doesn't get
really stirred up until air in the cockpit starts moving around after
take-off? Can he take the risk?

It is hard for him to be in public. He wasn't able to go to public
school or ride public transportation later.


Then flying on his own is going to be a real problem. Best not to say
anything about that unless explicitly asked.
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Old January 23rd 08, 06:35 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_22_]
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Default Medical and severe allergies

Mxsmanic wrote in
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Robert M. Gary writes:

No, when they test you for allergies they don't tell you which part
of the skin they put which allergen. It would be pretty tough to only
break out in certain areas.


True, but when you see someone open a bag of nuts, you know that the
allergen is at least theoretically present. Asthma, for example, is
famous for being an allergy that can be triggered not only by actual
exposure to allergens but also psychogenically, and allergic reactions
in general are in a category of physiological responses that are
strongly influenced by emotion and mental state.

In any case, if a person develops a dangerous allergic reaction just
by having a bag of peanuts opened nearby,


Wheras you just look for the crumbs, eh?


Bertie
 




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