Free plans? Open source plans?

On Jan 25, 7:13*pm, wrote:
The second question/idea is a bit far out: Are there any "open source"
projects? It's obviously extremely difficult to exchange parts of
airplanes across the web, but people could develop something together
and everyone builds his or her own plane from the plans that come out
of this (and even those not building could bring in their expertise).
I know this is not computer software (even for a model airplane it
could work well), but has something like this been undertaken? Is it
feasible?

Oliver

If open source airplane designs worked like open source software I
wouldn't go near the end product -- because my life would depend on
it.

And if I ever find out open source software is running aircraft
systems I won't fly on it. But of course that will never happen.

I would sooner fly with open source software running my aircraft than
anything put out by Microsoft or Apple. Nothing would put the fear of
flying into me more than thinking that I was dependent on anything put
out by those to companies.

And if I ever find out open source software is running aircraft
systems I won't fly on it. But of course that will never happen.

I would sooner fly with open source software running my aircraft than
anything put out by Microsoft or Apple. *Nothing would put the fear of
flying into me more than thinking that I was dependent on anything put
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I wouldn't fly with any software by them either.

In fact I don't like software controlling aircraft at all. Written by
anyone. The more software gets involved in aircraft control, the more
major crashes will be traced back to a "software glitch." It's
happened already.

I won't be surprised if the 777 at Heathrow won't be some kind of
software glitch.

F0k that.

wrote:
And if I ever find out open source software is running aircraft
systems I won't fly on it. But of course that will never happen.
I would sooner fly with open source software running my aircraft than
anything put out by Microsoft or Apple. Nothing would put the fear of
flying into me more than thinking that I was dependent on anything put
out by those to companies.- Hide quoted text -

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I wouldn't fly with any software by them either.

In fact I don't like software controlling aircraft at all. Written by
anyone. The more software gets involved in aircraft control, the more
major crashes will be traced back to a "software glitch." It's
happened already.

I won't be surprised if the 777 at Heathrow won't be some kind of
software glitch.

F0k that.


Like there were no crashes before software got involved. The question is
how many accidents didn't happen because of software intervention.
Unfortunately we will never know.

On Jan 29, 10:39*am, Gig 601XL Builder
wrote:
wrote:
And if I ever find out open source software is running aircraft
systems I won't fly on it. But of course that will never happen.
I would sooner fly with open source software running my aircraft than
anything put out by Microsoft or Apple. *Nothing would put the fear of
flying into me more than thinking that I was dependent on anything put
out by those to companies.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I wouldn't fly with any software by them either.

In fact I don't like software controlling aircraft at all. Written by
anyone. The more software gets involved in aircraft control, the more
major crashes will be traced back to a "software glitch." It's
happened already.

I won't be surprised if the 777 at Heathrow won't be some kind of
software glitch.

F0k that.

Like there were no crashes before software got involved. The question is
how many accidents didn't happen because of software intervention.
Unfortunately we will never know.- Hide quoted text -

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Excellent point!

Like there were no crashes before software got involved. The question is
how many accidents didn't happen because of software intervention.
Unfortunately we will never know.- Hide quoted text -

Excellent point!-

If we will never know how can that be an excellent point?

On Jan 29, 12:39*pm, wrote:
Like there were no crashes before software got involved. The question is
how many accidents didn't happen because of software intervention.
Unfortunately we will never know.- Hide quoted text -

Excellent point!-

If we will never know how can that be an excellent point?

Ever try to prove a negative? We can extrapolate on probabilities
based on the improved safety of the airlines in spite of an ever
greater number of flights with more complex aircraft. If the software
were not involved, could that safety margin have been maintained? I
seriously doubt it but we will never know.

Gig 601XL Builder wrote:

Like there were no crashes before software got involved. The question is
how many accidents didn't happen because of software intervention.
Unfortunately we will never know.

You could say everytime an F22 or F117 take off and land it is a crash
averted by software.

Charles

On Jan 28, 10:20*pm, wrote:
And if I ever find out open source software is running aircraft
systems I won't fly on it. But of course that will never happen.

I would sooner fly with open source software running my aircraft than
anything put out by Microsoft or Apple. *Nothing would put the fear of
flying into me more than thinking that I was dependent on anything put
out by those to companies.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I wouldn't fly with any software by them either.

In fact I don't like software controlling aircraft at all. Written by
anyone. The more software gets involved in aircraft control, the more
major crashes will be traced back to a "software glitch." It's
happened already.

I won't be surprised if the 777 at Heathrow won't be some kind of
software glitch.

F0k that.

Computers and the software that we run on them are TOOLS and should be
used to supplement the capabilities of those using them. The TOOLS
should not be in charge for the simple reason that they can not reason
and make decisions on anything not previously programmed into them.
When we allow those TOOLS to override our requests, we are at the
mercy of our lack of ability to anticipate all possible events.