Bizarre Weather

Judah wrote in news:Xns9A336402EBA45Judahnospamnet@
209.197.15.254:

Bertie the Bunyip wrote in news:Xns9A3331C064B4A****upropeeh@
207.14.116.130:

Only to science deniers..

I am a firm believer in Darwin's Weather Evolution principal.



Unfortunately, it matters not if oyu believe or not if the assholes around
you don't.


Bertie

Bertie the Bunyip wrote in news:Xns9A33978FFFC45****upropeeh@
207.14.116.130:

Unfortunately, it matters not if oyu believe or not if the assholes around
you don't.

It matters to me what I believe, just as it matters to you what you
believe...

Judah wrote in
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Bertie the Bunyip wrote in
news:Xns9A33978FFFC45****upropeeh@ 207.14.116.130:

Unfortunately, it matters not if oyu believe or not if the assholes
around you don't.

It matters to me what I believe, just as it matters to you what you
believe...


Oh, I wasn't suggesting anything else.

But in fact, I don't go in for belief so much anyway..

I regard it as almost a neccesary evil until such time as I actually *do*
know it all.


Bertie

Bertie the Bunyip wrote in news:Xns9A33A03F81825****upropeeh@
207.14.116.130:

It matters to me what I believe, just as it matters to you what you
believe...

Oh, I wasn't suggesting anything else.

I know you weren't. I was just pointing out the oxymoron of the typical
scientific theory and those who believe in them.

I regard it as almost a neccesary evil until such time as I actually *do*
know it all.

You can't know it all. You can only believe you know it all.

Judah wrote in
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Bertie the Bunyip wrote in
news:Xns9A33A03F81825****upropeeh@ 207.14.116.130:

It matters to me what I believe, just as it matters to you what you
believe...

Oh, I wasn't suggesting anything else.

I know you weren't. I was just pointing out the oxymoron of the
typical scientific theory and those who believe in them.

I regard it as almost a neccesary evil until such time as I actually
*do* know it all.

You can't know it all. You can only believe you know it all.




I knew that.

Bertie

On 2008-01-28, Judah wrote:
I know you weren't. I was just pointing out the oxymoron of the typical
scientific theory and those who believe in them.

What, in particular, is oxymoron about "scientific theory"?

Methinks you are confusing theory with conjecture. In science, theory
does not mean 'guess' or 'hunch'. It has a very specific meaning that is
not the same as what a TV detective means when he says 'I have a
theory'.

--
From the sunny Isle of Man.
Yes, the Reply-To email address is valid.

Dylan Smith wrote in
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On 2008-01-28, Judah wrote:

What, in particular, is oxymoron about "scientific theory"?

Methinks you are confusing theory with conjecture. In science, theory
does not mean 'guess' or 'hunch'. It has a very specific meaning that is
not the same as what a TV detective means when he says 'I have a
theory'.

The oxymoron is not "scientific theory". The oxymoron is the BELIEF in
scientific theory.

The joke is that people like yourself will happily believe in a scientific
theory based on something they read in one book, but refuse to believe in a
religious theory based on something they read in another.

The bigger joke is that people on either side of the argument tend to believe
that science and religion are mutually exclusive, when in reality they just
answer different questions to the same problem.

Judah wrote in
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Dylan Smith wrote in
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On 2008-01-28, Judah wrote:

What, in particular, is oxymoron about "scientific theory"?

Methinks you are confusing theory with conjecture. In science, theory
does not mean 'guess' or 'hunch'. It has a very specific meaning that
is not the same as what a TV detective means when he says 'I have a
theory'.

The oxymoron is not "scientific theory". The oxymoron is the BELIEF in
scientific theory.

It's not a belief.


The joke is that people like yourself will happily believe in a
scientific theory based on something they read in one book, but refuse
to believe in a religious theory based on something they read in
another.

That;s the difference. Sientific theory isn't a belief. It's a best
guess based on the best obtainable info. Nobody "believes" a scientific
theory, at least not in the same way that someone makes a leap of faith
to believe in a religion.
Scinece is an attempt to understand whereas religion is not.


The bigger joke is that people on either side of the argument tend to
believe that science and religion are mutually exclusive, when in
reality they just answer different questions to the same problem.

Or so you believe.


Bertie

On 2008-02-03, Judah wrote:
The oxymoron is not "scientific theory". The oxymoron is the BELIEF in
scientific theory.

The joke is that people like yourself will happily believe in a scientific
theory based on something they read in one book, but refuse to believe in a
religious theory based on something they read in another.

Well, you just sort of proved you really don't understand what the
scientific method is, or indeed what a scientific theory is, and you
also made a false assumption about me.

A hint. Scientific theories aren't something you believe in. In fact,
the scientific method spends most of its time trying not to "believe"
theories, but instead disprove them. A big part of a scientist's job is
to poke holes in theories.

--
From the sunny Isle of Man.
Yes, the Reply-To email address is valid.

"Judah" wrote:

I know you weren't. I was just pointing out the oxymoron of the typical
scientific theory and those who believe in them.

You apparently do not understand the meaning of "oxymoron."

....or science...

or "theory."

What do you understand?

--
Dan

"Dragged forward by cold science, which doesn’t care what we think or believe
or wish for, we are headed into some interesting times."
- John Derbyshire