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Can Branson Charge For Flights In An Experimental Aircraft?



 
 
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Old January 28th 08, 05:54 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.homebuilt
Larry Dighera
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Default Can Branson Charge For Flights In An Experimental Aircraft?

On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 11:31:55 -0600, Gig 601XL Builder
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cavalamb himself wrote:
Larry Dighera wrote:
Is Branson going to certify White Knight Two and SpaceShipTwo?



When has FAA ever been involved space craft systems?


Damn now I have to back up Larry.

http://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/...e_flight_reqs/


The regulations also establish requirements for crew notification,
medical qualifications and training, as well as requirements
governing environmental control and life support systems. They
also require a launch vehicle operator to verify the integrated
performance of a vehicles hardware and any software in an
operational environment. An operator must successfully verify the
integrated performance of a vehicle's hardware and any software in
an operational flight environment before allowing any space flight
participant on board. Verificatioin [sic] must include flight
testing.

So it would seem that the operator of an ostensibly uncertified
aircraft, that can truly be considered experimental in my opinion, is
authorized by the FAA to "verify" the spacecraft is safe for flight.

But that doesn't address Sec. 91.319's prohibition against flying
paying passengers in experimental aircraft, does it?

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Old January 28th 08, 06:26 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.homebuilt
Bertie the Bunyip[_22_]
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Default Can Branson Charge For Flights In An Experimental Aircraft?

Larry Dighera wrote in
:

On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 11:31:55 -0600, Gig 601XL Builder
wrote in
:

cavalamb himself wrote:
Larry Dighera wrote:
Is Branson going to certify White Knight Two and SpaceShipTwo?



When has FAA ever been involved space craft systems?


Damn now I have to back up Larry.


http://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/...ast/human_spac
e_flight_reqs/


The regulations also establish requirements for crew notification,
medical qualifications and training, as well as requirements
governing environmental control and life support systems. They
also require a launch vehicle operator to verify the integrated
performance of a vehicles hardware and any software in an
operational environment. An operator must successfully verify the
integrated performance of a vehicle's hardware and any software in
an operational flight environment before allowing any space flight
participant on board. Verificatioin [sic] must include flight
testing.

So it would seem that the operator of an ostensibly uncertified
aircraft, that can truly be considered experimental in my opinion, is
authorized by the FAA to "verify" the spacecraft is safe for flight.

But that doesn't address Sec. 91.319's prohibition against flying
paying passengers in experimental aircraft, does it?


Oh you better get out to Mojave and warn Burt about this, Lar.

Don't forget to bring your speed gun.


Bertie
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Old January 29th 08, 07:24 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.homebuilt
Dale[_3_]
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Default Can Branson Charge For Flights In An Experimental Aircraft?

In article ,
Larry Dighera wrote:



But that doesn't address Sec. 91.319's prohibition against flying
paying passengers in experimental aircraft, does it?


You just have to get a letter authorizing the carrying of paying
passengers. The Collings Foundation B-24J is licensed in the
experimental category yet is allowed to carry paying passengers.
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Old January 29th 08, 11:52 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.homebuilt
cavalamb himself[_2_]
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Default Can Branson Charge For Flights In An Experimental Aircraft?

Dale wrote:
In article ,
Larry Dighera wrote:



But that doesn't address Sec. 91.319's prohibition against flying
paying passengers in experimental aircraft, does it?



You just have to get a letter authorizing the carrying of paying
passengers. The Collings Foundation B-24J is licensed in the
experimental category yet is allowed to carry paying passengers.



Passengers can pay for fuel and maintenance costs.

The rest goes for training.
 




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