Another weird YouTube plane video

I flew a Beech P58 Baron into A-A Ranch in Wyoming many
years ago. The runway was below the snow line in the
summer. There was a 500-1,000 feet of generally level paved
surface, then a 1,000 feet or so of runway that was at a
steep angle, 15-20% if I remember, followed with a generally
level section on the tip of the hill. Airport elevation was
around 9,000 IIRC.

Landing was no problem, but I did have one minor problem
after landing, both engines dies half way up the hill.
Seems that Beech did not use altitude compensating fuel
control units on the airplane. Full rich mixtures for a
possible go-around drowned the engine when the throttles
were closed.

Got it stopped before it began to roll backward down the
runway and did not have it do a tail strike!

Got it re-started and with the mixtures about 1/2 way back
it would idle. Taxied up. I much prefer the King Air, no
mixture control.

If it had not started? I would probably have carefully
tried something "silly" after having the passengers get out.
I was thinking of letting the left brake slip a little so it
would roll backward and I could do a U turn. Then I'd coast
down the hill, keeping the speed down. Glad it started.

There was no mention in the P Baron POH about the mixture
problem at altitude. Same engine in the turbo Baron and
Bonanza. Just keep in mind, full rich until touchdown, half
mixture BEFORE closing the throttles.

I think that airport is closed now, it was in SE Wyoming
north of Denver.


--
James H. Macklin
ATP,CFI,A&P

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Jim Macklin schrieb:

Airport elevation was around 9,000 IIRC.
....
Full rich mixtures for a possible go-around

Shaking my head in disbelieve.

There was no mention in the P Baron POH about the mixture
problem at altitude.

Of course not. This is basic PP stuff.

Just keep in mind, full rich until touchdown,

So you haven't learnt your lesson.

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Jim Macklin schrieb:

Airport elevation was around 9,000 IIRC.
...
Full rich mixtures for a possible go-around

Shaking my head in disbelieve.

There was no mention in the P Baron POH about the mixture
problem at altitude.

Of course not. This is basic PP stuff.

Just keep in mind, full rich until touchdown,

So you haven't learnt your lesson.


Ho'w the tooth count coming?

Bertie

On Fri, 1 Feb 2008 16:26:29 -0600, "Jim Macklin"
wrote:



Got it stopped before it began to roll backward down the
runway and did not have it do a tail strike!

A few years back, an unoccupied Seneca rolled backwards down an
embankment at Chester, CT, and hit a some really nice cars,
tail-first.

Not pretty... The entire tail section was trashed. A good case could
have been made for rear bumpers on airplanes!

There was no mention in the P Baron POH about the mixture
problem at altitude. Same engine in the turbo Baron and
Bonanza.

My much simpler '76 Sundowner does mention mixture vs. surface
altitude. What year Baron was it?

It was a mid 80's production, 84 or 85 with the new panel.

The Continental injection system was adapted to
turbocharging. It uses a fixed fuel metering based on rpm,
throttle and mixture setting. There is an upper deck fuel
pressure bleed on the turbo, to raise fuel pressure when the
boost is at above ambient [TO MAP was 39.5 "Hg.] But idle
mixture is set for sea level.

The problem was I had been recently flying another model
with Bendix injection, it has pressure balance mixture
control.

Live and learn.


"B A R R Y" wrote in
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| On Fri, 1 Feb 2008 16:26:29 -0600, "Jim Macklin"
| wrote:
|
|
|
| Got it stopped before it began to roll backward down the
| runway and did not have it do a tail strike!
|
| A few years back, an unoccupied Seneca rolled backwards
down an
| embankment at Chester, CT, and hit a some really nice
cars,
| tail-first.
|
| Not pretty... The entire tail section was trashed. A
good case could
| have been made for rear bumpers on airplanes!
|
| There was no mention in the P Baron POH about the mixture
| problem at altitude. Same engine in the turbo Baron and
| Bonanza.
|
| My much simpler '76 Sundowner does mention mixture vs.
surface
| altitude. What year Baron was it?
|