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(MLenoch) wrote:
Mike Marron wrote:

When Ed said Kramer was guilty of "demeaning the whole
warrior ethic," the "Autocollimator" person subsequently responded:

That's weird. Especially when Ed gives Art credit in his recent book.

And he probably deeply regrets it. Can't say as I blame him after
Kramer started hiding behind his "Autocollimator" pseudonym
just so the cowardly, pathetic, and psychotic old fart could applaud
and glorify himself under the guise of someone else. Pathetic!

Just make me think. Does Mike have a wife , girlfriend or even a life? Any
kids on the way? You can draw your own conclusions about these questions.

Stupid net dweebs like you and Art are the epitome of AOLdom and
the question really should be, does MLenoch have a brain? Obviously
not, since you condon chicken**** anonymous behavior on this NG by
your AOL cronies and anonymous scumbags like Kramer. By attempting
to glorify himself while bullying others under his anonymous
"Autocollimator" screen name, Kramer now has not one modicum
of respect or credibility left anymore. And anyone like YOU who
thinks otherwise is just as delusional and mentally ill as
Kramer/Autocollimator.

"Mike Marron" wrote in message
...
(MLenoch) wrote:
Mike Marron wrote:

When Ed said Kramer was guilty of "demeaning the whole
warrior ethic," the "Autocollimator" person subsequently responded:

That's weird. Especially when Ed gives Art credit in his recent book.

And he probably deeply regrets it. Can't say as I blame him after
Kramer started hiding behind his "Autocollimator" pseudonym
just so the cowardly, pathetic, and psychotic old fart could applaud
and glorify himself under the guise of someone else. Pathetic!

Just make me think. Does Mike have a wife , girlfriend or even a life?
Any
kids on the way? You can draw your own conclusions about these
questions.

Stupid net dweebs like you and Art are the epitome of AOLdom and
the question really should be, does MLenoch have a brain? Obviously
not, since you condon chicken**** anonymous behavior on this NG by
your AOL cronies and anonymous scumbags like Kramer. By attempting
to glorify himself while bullying others under his anonymous
"Autocollimator" screen name, Kramer now has not one modicum
of respect or credibility left anymore. And anyone like YOU who
thinks otherwise is just as delusional and mentally ill as
Kramer/Autocollimator.

You know Marron, I have to tell you; I've known these people you're fighting
with a real long time, and if there was anything at all phony about them, I
think I would know it by now. I'm a fairly intelligent fellow, and I'll let
you in on a few things.
Forgive me Vlado....I just HAVE to get here SOMEPLACE!!!!!
Does Vlado Lenoch have a brain? I believe he does, although my wife says he
spends entirely too much of his lunch money on avgas!! You might check out
Vlado's brain with the MIT Alumni Association, since he graduated from MIT.
I'm just a lowly science and engineering guy, but I've been told that some
pretty smart people come out of MIT.

As for Art; I've known both these people a very long time through these
newsgroups.......and FWIW.......you make a very weak case for your point of
view when you arrive on the scene with nothing but vitriolic charges and
innuendo that isn't in any shape or form backed up by fact or absolute
proof.
When you do this on Usenet, you lose the credibility of your argument in
exchange for your choice of personal attack. The result is, as you can see,
not necessarily eliciting positive responses to your charges :-)))
Add to that' you're making a basic 101 fatal error that destroys your point
completely and paints any argument you might have had as totally ridiculous
to anyone with half a brain.......or in Vlado's case, a whole brain and then
some.....(since he graduated from MIT ) ........THAT being your glittering
generalization that postulates a negative projection for anyone and everyone
who uses a specific ISP...in this case AOL.
It just doesn't wash Marron. I can't stop you from self destructing in this
manner. All I can do is stand back and watch it happen.
I can tell you this much however. From what you're doing here, I can well
see the day when Vlado, Art, Ed, and most of the rest of us around here will
be posting to each other as usual and asking ourselves what ever happened to
Mike Marron?
If I were you, I'd do some serious reconsidering on what you're doing ole'
buddy.
:-))
All the best,
Dudley Henriques
International Fighter Pilots Fellowship
Commercial Pilot/ CFI Retired
For personal email, please replace
the z's with e's.
dhenriquesATzarthlinkDOTnzt

"Dudley Henriques" wrote:

[SNIP]

As for Art; I've known both these people a very long time through these
newsgroups.......

You know both Autocollimator and Art Kramer?

I keep waiting to see if Mike can offer direct proof of what he insists is the
truth - In my dealing with Art, he's always been honest - I can't imagine why
he'd puppet although stranger things have happened. But this isn't really
about Art or what he may/may not have done - its about how truly argumentative
you have been in RAM, Mike. I think most of the posters here have their share
of testosterone, but only one person seems to be splashing it all over the
screen. In the relatively short time you've been posting on RAM, I haven't
seen you trying to get along with, or show respect to anyone. Its ok to be
full of yourself, but eventually, you will have argued yourself out of an
audience. All of us on RAM have our faults, but it looks like your primary
input here is in the form of inflammitory remarks against people who don't know
you from Adam. A lot of us have been posting to RAM for years and we don't go
cracking on "newbies" to the group, but you seem to be going out of your way to
make a bad impression.

Gordon
...an AOLer that thinks your comments about my ISP is just plain silly - should
I look down on you for picking a car I don't particularly approve of..? ISP
insults are about as lame as it gets, Mike, and it gives the impression you are
simply looking for another reason to take a shot at passing strangers.

(Gordon) wrote:

I keep waiting to see if Mike can offer direct proof of what he insists is the
truth - In my dealing with Art, he's always been honest - I can't imagine why
he'd puppet although stranger things have happened.

Call it a gift, Gordon. Some of us are simply blessed with built-in BS
detectors and I can smell Kramer masquerading as "Autocollimator"
from a mile away. Now, I don't know you from Adam either but I do
know that Kramer has his sycophantic band of followers and supporters
around here who simply don't can't bear the thought of thier WW2
"hero" stooping so low as to post under an alias. You can attempt to
change the subject, rationalize, and counterattack all you want,
but so far nobody has offerred any proof that "Autocollimator"
is NOT Kramer.

"Mike Marron" wrote in message
...

You can attempt to
change the subject, rationalize, and counterattack all you want,
but so far nobody has offerred any proof that "Autocollimator"
is NOT Kramer.

Ah HA!!! Now we're getting somewhere......SCIENCE!!!! I can DEAL with
SCIENCE!!!!!!!:-))

Let's see....there's a parallel in here somewhere........I know, I have
it.......wait a second while my wife brings me a Jack Daniels so I can give
this my undivided attention !!!

After having my JD and making a few notations..........

When Eienstien was asked what an atom looked like, he pondered the question
a moment and answered, " Science sometimes deals with elimination to arrive
at substance and conclusion. One can't actually describe the physical
appearance of an atom to the degree that one can say without fear of
contradiction that the physical appearance of the atom is definitely NOT
that of a pussy cat!!"

So now that YOU have allied your deductive reasoning with that of Einstein,
we can begin to use your logic in reaching our conclusion about Arthur.
Since Art's physical appearance doesn't resemble an atom or a pussy cat, can
we now assume that unless he can prove he is Art, that he is in fact
Autocollimator? Or if Art is Autocollimator, can we assume that Art has a
pussy cat......Ah HA!!! A pussy cat named "atom" perhaps?
But someone has already postulated that Art and Autocollimator come from two
different location paths. Can this be? One would think that two
personalities so similar as you say would be cohabitating to say the least.
Using Occam's Razor, I'm theorizing here that the constant in this equation
is "pussycats"
I therefore postulate to you that if Art can say to this newsgroup without
qualification that he either owns or doesn't own a pussycat named "atom" and
you Mike Marron, CAN'T prove that Autocoillimator indeed does or doesn't own
a pussycat named "atom"......your theory about Art and Autocollimator is
flawed.

While you people work on this, I'm going to have another JD and see if I can
find our cat, who is suddenly missing, after looking at the computer screen
with total disgust as I was writing this, and then suddenly running off
somewhere with my wife!!

Dudley Henriques
International Fighter Pilots Fellowship
Commercial Pilot/ CFI Retired
For personal email, please replace
the z's with e's.
dhenriquesATzarthlinkDOTnzt

"Dudley Henriques" wrote:
"Mike Marron" wrote:

You can attempt to change the subject, rationalize, and counterattack
all you want, but so far nobody has offerred any proof that "Autocollimator"
is NOT Kramer.

Ah HA!!! Now we're getting somewhere......SCIENCE!!!! I can DEAL with
SCIENCE!!!!!!!:-))

Let's see....there's a parallel in here somewhere........I know, I have
it.......wait a second while my wife brings me a Jack Daniels so I can give
this my undivided attention !!!

After having my JD and making a few notations..........

When Eienstien was asked what an atom looked like, he pondered the question
a moment and answered, " Science sometimes deals with elimination to arrive
at substance and conclusion. One can't actually describe the physical
appearance of an atom to the degree that one can say without fear of
contradiction that the physical appearance of the atom is definitely NOT
that of a pussy cat!!"

So now that YOU have allied your deductive reasoning with that of Einstein,
we can begin to use your logic in reaching our conclusion about Arthur.
Since Art's physical appearance doesn't resemble an atom or a pussy cat, can
we now assume that unless he can prove he is Art, that he is in fact
Autocollimator? Or if Art is Autocollimator, can we assume that Art has a
pussy cat......Ah HA!!! A pussy cat named "atom" perhaps?
But someone has already postulated that Art and Autocollimator come from two
different location paths. Can this be? One would think that two
personalities so similar as you say would be cohabitating to say the least.
Using Occam's Razor, I'm theorizing here that the constant in this equation
is "pussycats"
I therefore postulate to you that if Art can say to this newsgroup without
qualification that he either owns or doesn't own a pussycat named "atom" and
you Mike Marron, CAN'T prove that Autocoillimator indeed does or doesn't own
a pussycat named "atom"......your theory about Art and Autocollimator is
flawed.

While you people work on this, I'm going to have another JD and see if I can
find our cat, who is suddenly missing, after looking at the computer screen
with total disgust as I was writing this, and then suddenly running off
somewhere with my wife!!

After wading thru your silly nonsense above you couldn't possibly be
as thoroughly disgusted as me (you sure that's not laced
"Autocollimator" KoolAid you're drinking instead of Jack Daniels?)


Dudley Henriques
International Fighter Pilots Fellowship
Commercial Pilot/ CFI Retired
For personal email, please replace
the z's with e's.
dhenriquesATzarthlinkDOTnzt

You forgot to include your Fellowship in the Flat Earth Society.

Subject: 40,000 Plus Hits. Thank you all.
From: "Dudley Henriques"
Date: 11/1/03 11:20 AM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:


"Mike Marron" wrote in message
.. .

You can attempt to
change the subject, rationalize, and counterattack all you want,
but so far nobody has offerred any proof that "Autocollimator"
is NOT Kramer.

Ah HA!!! Now we're getting somewhere......SCIENCE!!!! I can DEAL with
SCIENCE!!!!!!!:-))

Let's see....there's a parallel in here somewhere........I know, I have
it.......wait a second while my wife brings me a Jack Daniels so I can give
this my undivided attention !!!

After having my JD and making a few notations..........

When Eienstien was asked what an atom looked like, he pondered the question
a moment and answered, " Science sometimes deals with elimination to arrive
at substance and conclusion. One can't actually describe the physical
appearance of an atom to the degree that one can say without fear of
contradiction that the physical appearance of the atom is definitely NOT
that of a pussy cat!!"

So now that YOU have allied your deductive reasoning with that of Einstein,
we can begin to use your logic in reaching our conclusion about Arthur.
Since Art's physical appearance doesn't resemble an atom or a pussy cat, can
we now assume that unless he can prove he is Art, that he is in fact
Autocollimator? Or if Art is Autocollimator, can we assume that Art has a
pussy cat......Ah HA!!! A pussy cat named "atom" perhaps?
But someone has already postulated that Art and Autocollimator come from two
different location paths. Can this be? One would think that two
personalities so similar as you say would be cohabitating to say the least.
Using Occam's Razor, I'm theorizing here that the constant in this equation
is "pussycats"
I therefore postulate to you that if Art can say to this newsgroup without
qualification that he either owns or doesn't own a pussycat named "atom" and
you Mike Marron, CAN'T prove that Autocoillimator indeed does or doesn't own
a pussycat named "atom"......your theory about Art and Autocollimator is
flawed.

While you people work on this, I'm going to have another JD and see if I can
find our cat, who is suddenly missing, after looking at the computer screen
with total disgust as I was writing this, and then suddenly running off
somewhere with my wife!!

Dudley Henriques
International Fighter Pilots Fellowship
Commercial Pilot/ CFI Retired
For personal email, please replace
the z's with e's.
dhenriquesATzarthlinkDOTnzt



ROFL ! Occam is now turning over in his grave. (sigh)


Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer

"Mike Marron" wrote in message
...
(Gordon) wrote:

I keep waiting to see if Mike can offer direct proof of what he insists
is the
truth - In my dealing with Art, he's always been honest - I can't imagine
why
he'd puppet although stranger things have happened.

Call it a gift, Gordon. Some of us are simply blessed with built-in BS
detectors and I can smell Kramer masquerading as "Autocollimator"
from a mile away. Now, I don't know you from Adam either but I do
know that Kramer has his sycophantic band of followers and supporters
around here who simply don't can't bear the thought of thier WW2
"hero" stooping so low as to post under an alias. You can attempt to
change the subject, rationalize, and counterattack all you want,
but so far nobody has offerred any proof that "Autocollimator"
is NOT Kramer.

--



Finally I can use a quote from HL Mencken that I've been hanging onto for
years ....




"The world always makes the assumption that the exposure of an error is
identical with the discovery of the truth - that error and truth are merely
opposite.


They are nothing of the sort. What the world turns to, when it has been
cured of one error, is usually another error and maybe one worse than the
first one"







Cheers

Dave Kearton

Mike Marron wrote:

Call it a gift, Gordon. Some of us are simply blessed with built-in BS
detectors and I can smell Kramer masquerading as "Autocollimator"
from a mile away. Now, I don't know you from Adam either but I do
know that Kramer has his sycophantic band of followers and supporters
around here who simply don't can't bear the thought of thier WW2
"hero" stooping so low as to post under an alias.

Who are you and why the hell do you care?

If you are going to call people cowards on RAM you might at least have the
curtesey to include your address!

-- Charlie Springer