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(Peter Stickney) wrote:

There's only one problem with that, Mike. Autocollimater's posts are
coming through nntp (Net News Transport Protocol) Server
,
and Art's are coming through nntp server mb-m10.aol.com.
AOL, like everybody else, has their News Servers set up to handle a
particular set of POP (Points of Presense), and, therefore, service a
particular geographic area. The area serviced by an nntp server is
large enough that, say, calling a POP in an adjacent locale will, by
and large, have you posting your stuff through the same server. So
what those message IDs are telling us is that Art and Autocollimater
may well be in the same Time Zone, but they aren't near each other.

--
Pete Stickney

Good try Pete but your last para there is inaccurate.

Those nntp's can be changed around (almost) at will. You may
notice that I use one in New Brunswick instead of my local one
here on PEI because I find it faster. I've even tried several in
Ontario (1000 miles West of here) some work, others don't.

They're not hard to change at all, so "both of these posters"
could indeed be the "same one". Also, the word Autocollimater is
a 'nonword' but 'collimater' means:

1 : a device for producing a beam of parallel rays (as of light)
or for forming an infinitely distant virtual image that can be
viewed without parallax

Possibly some system inside or related to a bombsight?

Just noodling around here...no accusations forthcoming.

--

-Gord.

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"Gord Beaman" ) writes:
(Peter Stickney) wrote:

There's only one problem with that, Mike. Autocollimater's posts are
coming through nntp (Net News Transport Protocol) Server
,
and Art's are coming through nntp server mb-m10.aol.com.
AOL, like everybody else, has their News Servers set up to handle a
particular set of POP (Points of Presense), and, therefore, service a
particular geographic area. The area serviced by an nntp server is
large enough that, say, calling a POP in an adjacent locale will, by
and large, have you posting your stuff through the same server. So
what those message IDs are telling us is that Art and Autocollimater
may well be in the same Time Zone, but they aren't near each other.

--
Pete Stickney

Good try Pete but your last para there is inaccurate.

Those nntp's can be changed around (almost) at will. You may
notice that I use one in New Brunswick instead of my local one
here on PEI because I find it faster. I've even tried several in
Ontario (1000 miles West of here) some work, others don't.

I may have jumped the gun a bit in my attempt to oversimplify.
With the exception of AOL, Gord, I'd say you're absolutely correct.
(Astute header readers will know that despite my living in New
Hampshire, USA, I'm posting through a News Server in Germany.
(Adelphia's not the greatest at nntp connectivity)
However, to the best of my knowledge, AOL's servers are only open to
AOL's customers, and AOL's browser/reader software doesn't give you
the option of switching/selecting the nntp server that you're using.
Theere are some other clues, as well. The header information in
Art's, Auticollimater's, and, for that matter, Gordon's (krztalizer)
posting is incomplete, in a manner characteristic of AOL's software.

That isn't to say that it wouldn't be possible to arrange entry through
a different POP, but that's much more expensive, devious, and time
consuming that opening up a false Google Posting ID, and using that.

Mind you, there can be other ways, as well - I could make it appear
that I was posting from Mcmurdo Sound, if I wanted to bend a few
rules - but the people who are capable of that tend not to be
long-time AOL users.


They're not hard to change at all, so "both of these posters"
could indeed be the "same one". Also, the word Autocollimater is
a 'nonword' but 'collimater' means:

1 : a device for producing a beam of parallel rays (as of light)
or for forming an infinitely distant virtual image that can be
viewed without parallax

Possibly some system inside or related to a bombsight?

Possible, but there are a lot of other collimaters out there, as
well. I'm using a chunk of a Gamma Ray Collimater as a paperweight,
for example. (A chunk of Lead Honeycomb about 4" thick)

Just noodling around here...no accusations forthcoming.

No need for any importance. Until we're all in the same room, our
persona is what we post, warts and all. The impressions we make color
everything we do. In my case, it matters not if Art just happens to
_be_ AC, no matter what my belief. Art may very well be a Crusty Old
*******, and some of his opinions and online mannerisms may be
abrasive as All Get Out, but I value his storytelling of his time in
the nose of a Marauder, and of life in the chaos of immediate postwar
Europe. If Joe Heller had been willing to share his typewriter, there
might have been a different movie made.

Mike, on the other hand, is trying too hard to be Hot Rock Harry,
Roger Rudder's illegitimate brother, that I've really got to question
his judgement. There are times when he seems to really know what he's
talking about, and many other times when he's the Cock of the Walk
with 100 hours under his belt. He does seem to suffer from the
Ultralight version of Short Man's Syndrome, where he's trying so
damned hard to make his ultralight the Greatest Thing since the Moller
Sky Car. If his real life persona is as twitchy and "fangs out" as
his online persona, I fully expect him to show up in the NTSB's
statistics someday, hopefully without killing anybody else. But
that's just his online persona - who knows what he (or any of us) are
in real life.

It's kind of amusing, to think of the possibilities -
John Tarver may actually be a Professor of Thermodynamics and History.
Grantland may actually be a Bantu. Bernardx might be a Rabbi. Denyav
might actually have grown up on Earth. Me, I'm James Bond and Derek
Flint, all rolled into one (and short enough to be an Astronaut,
besides) .


--
Pete Stickney
A strong conviction that something must be done is the parent of many
bad measures. -- Daniel Webster

(Peter Stickney) wrote:

But that's just his online persona - who knows what he (or any of us) are
in real life.

Exactly right. Based on your online persona, you would most definitely
would NOT be on my short list of candidates to fly an IFR approach
with OR plop an ultralight down onto a helicopter landing pad (much
less fly into combat!) Stick to posting aviation stats and figures on
RAM, Pete. Everything else is beneath ya.

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Mike Marron writes:
(Peter Stickney) wrote:

But that's just his online persona - who knows what he (or any of us) are
in real life.

Exactly right. Based on your online persona, you would most definitely
would NOT be on my short list of candidates to fly an IFR approach
with OR plop an ultralight down onto a helicopter landing pad (much
less fly into combat!) Stick to posting aviation stats and figures on
RAM, Pete. Everything else is beneath ya.

I don't get into Boasting Games, sport. If I were you, my posts would
be full of being conceived in a J-3 Cub, Soloing at 14, learning
mountain flying in some of the most unpredictable weather in the world
- you Floridians have absolutely no idea - looking at the Earth's
curvature from 50,000', or watching the jump-up on the Airspeed/Mach
Indicator as the shockwave formed. Or spending 4 hours above 35,000',
watching a strong Aurora Borealis play along the entire Northern
Horizon. Or the incredible greenness of North America after a year in
the Stinking Desert. Of feeling the heavy feel, but crisp reponse of the
De Havilland Vampire, or the instant response of the SGS 1-26, the
concnetration and precision needed to get the best out of an Mu-2.
Yeah, I don't fly much any more - UV at high altitude roasts your
eyes, and for some of us with the right genes, you've got screwed up
eyes for the rest of your life. I've managed to have some great
experiences, though. I've had the pleaser of being shot at and
shooting back, of flying an airplane faster than sound, of going to
exotic places to do dangerous things, and, best of all, holding my
newborn daughter in my arms.

But, you see, I'm not anything special, in that regard. nor have I
really done any great things. But I know folks who have, and I'm glad
to sit and listen to them any time.

--
Pete Stickney
A strong conviction that something must be done is the parent of many
bad measures. -- Daniel Webster

(Peter Stickney) wrote:
Mike Marron wrote:

Exactly right. Based on your online persona, you would most definitely
would NOT be on my short list of candidates to fly an IFR approach
with OR plop an ultralight down onto a helicopter landing pad (much
less fly into combat!) Stick to posting aviation stats and figures on
RAM, Pete. Everything else is beneath ya.

I don't get into Boasting Games, sport. If I were you, my posts would
be full of being conceived in a J-3 Cub,

Wrong. If I were conceived in a stinkin' J-3 Cub I damn sure wouldn't
brag about it.

Soloing at 14, learning mountain flying in some of the most unpredictable
weather in the world - you Floridians have absolutely no idea - looking at
the Earth's curvature from 50,000', or watching the jump-up on the Airspeed/Mach
Indicator as the shockwave formed.

Correct. We Floridians have "absolutely no idea."

Or spending 4 hours above 35,000', watching a strong Aurora Borealis
play along the entire Northern Horizon. Or the incredible greenness of North
America after a year in the Stinking Desert. Of feeling the heavy feel, but crisp
reponse of the De Havilland Vampire, or the instant response of the SGS 1-26,
the concnetration and precision needed to get the best out of an Mu-2.

Good grief!

Yeah, I don't fly much any more - UV at high altitude roasts your
eyes, and for some of us with the right genes, you've got screwed up
eyes for the rest of your life.

Just turned 43 years myself and (knock on wood!) still have 20/20
in both eyes....

I've managed to have some great experiences, though. I've had the
pleaser of being shot at and shooting back, of flying an airplane faster
than sound, of going to exotic places to do dangerous things, and, best
of all, holding my newborn daughter in my arms.

Wow!

But, you see, I'm not anything special, in that regard. nor have I
really done any great things. But I know folks who have, and I'm glad
to sit and listen to them any time.

Gotta' disagree. Whether you like it or not, you're damn sure
something "special," Gord.


Doncha' just love aviation?

"Mike Marron" wrote in message
news
(Peter Stickney) wrote:
Mike Marron wrote:

Exactly right. Based on your online persona, you would most definitely
would NOT be on my short list of candidates to fly an IFR approach
with OR plop an ultralight down onto a helicopter landing pad (much
less fly into combat!) Stick to posting aviation stats and figures on
RAM, Pete. Everything else is beneath ya.

I don't get into Boasting Games, sport. If I were you, my posts would
be full of being conceived in a J-3 Cub,

Wrong. If I were conceived in a stinkin' J-3 Cub I damn sure wouldn't
brag about it.

Soloing at 14, learning mountain flying in some of the most unpredictable
weather in the world - you Floridians have absolutely no idea - looking
at
the Earth's curvature from 50,000', or watching the jump-up on the
Airspeed/Mach
Indicator as the shockwave formed.

Correct. We Floridians have "absolutely no idea."

Or spending 4 hours above 35,000', watching a strong Aurora Borealis
play along the entire Northern Horizon. Or the incredible greenness of
North
America after a year in the Stinking Desert. Of feeling the heavy feel,
but crisp
reponse of the De Havilland Vampire, or the instant response of the SGS
1-26,
the concnetration and precision needed to get the best out of an Mu-2.

Good grief!

Yeah, I don't fly much any more - UV at high altitude roasts your
eyes, and for some of us with the right genes, you've got screwed up
eyes for the rest of your life.

Just turned 43 years myself and (knock on wood!) still have 20/20
in both eyes....

I've managed to have some great experiences, though. I've had the
pleaser of being shot at and shooting back, of flying an airplane faster
than sound, of going to exotic places to do dangerous things, and, best
of all, holding my newborn daughter in my arms.

Wow!

But, you see, I'm not anything special, in that regard. nor have I
really done any great things. But I know folks who have, and I'm glad
to sit and listen to them any time.

Gotta' disagree. Whether you like it or not, you're damn sure
something "special," Gord.


Doncha' just love aviation?

20/20 sounds more like your intelligence quota !!

BMC

Brian Colwell wrote:

"Mike Marron" wrote in message
news
(Peter Stickney) wrote:
Mike Marron wrote:

Exactly right. Based on your online persona, you would most definitely
would NOT be on my short list of candidates to fly an IFR approach
with OR plop an ultralight down onto a helicopter landing pad (much
less fly into combat!) Stick to posting aviation stats and figures on
RAM, Pete. Everything else is beneath ya.

I don't get into Boasting Games, sport. If I were you, my posts would
be full of being conceived in a J-3 Cub,

Wrong. If I were conceived in a stinkin' J-3 Cub I damn sure wouldn't
brag about it.

Soloing at 14, learning mountain flying in some of the most unpredictable
weather in the world - you Floridians have absolutely no idea - looking
at
the Earth's curvature from 50,000', or watching the jump-up on the
Airspeed/Mach
Indicator as the shockwave formed.

Correct. We Floridians have "absolutely no idea."

Or spending 4 hours above 35,000', watching a strong Aurora Borealis
play along the entire Northern Horizon. Or the incredible greenness of
North
America after a year in the Stinking Desert. Of feeling the heavy feel,
but crisp
reponse of the De Havilland Vampire, or the instant response of the SGS
1-26,
the concnetration and precision needed to get the best out of an Mu-2.

Good grief!

Yeah, I don't fly much any more - UV at high altitude roasts your
eyes, and for some of us with the right genes, you've got screwed up
eyes for the rest of your life.

Just turned 43 years myself and (knock on wood!) still have 20/20
in both eyes....

I've managed to have some great experiences, though. I've had the
pleaser of being shot at and shooting back, of flying an airplane faster
than sound, of going to exotic places to do dangerous things, and, best
of all, holding my newborn daughter in my arms.

Wow!

But, you see, I'm not anything special, in that regard. nor have I
really done any great things. But I know folks who have, and I'm glad
to sit and listen to them any time.

Gotta' disagree. Whether you like it or not, you're damn sure
something "special," Gord.


Doncha' just love aviation?

20/20 sounds more like your intelligence quota !!

BMC

and cubed, at that.....

redc1c4,
(after being viewed through the Hubbell telescope, of course. %-)
--
A Troop - 1st Squadron
404th Lemming Armored Cavalry

"Velox et Capillatus!"

Peter Stickney wrote:

I don't get into Boasting Games, sport. If I were you, my posts would
be full of being conceived in a J-3 Cub, Soloing at 14, learning
mountain flying in some of the most unpredictable weather in the world
- you Floridians have absolutely no idea - looking at the Earth's
curvature from 50,000', or watching the jump-up on the Airspeed/Mach
Indicator as the shockwave formed. Or spending 4 hours above 35,000',
watching a strong Aurora Borealis play along the entire Northern
Horizon. Or the incredible greenness of North America after a year in
the Stinking Desert. Of feeling the heavy feel, but crisp reponse of the
De Havilland Vampire, or the instant response of the SGS 1-26, the
concnetration and precision needed to get the best out of an Mu-2.
Yeah, I don't fly much any more - UV at high altitude roasts your
eyes, and for some of us with the right genes, you've got screwed up
eyes for the rest of your life. I've managed to have some great
experiences, though. I've had the pleaser of being shot at and
shooting back, of flying an airplane faster than sound, of going to
exotic places to do dangerous things, and, best of all, holding my
newborn daughter in my arms.

But, you see, I'm not anything special, in that regard. nor have I
really done any great things. But I know folks who have, and I'm glad
to sit and listen to them any time.

Great post which promptss me to raise a point I have been thinking about
for some little time. Among RAM regulars there is obviously a wealth of
valuable aviation knowledge, but it seems to be overshadowed by
bickering.

I'd like to suggest that RAM regulars donate some of their knowledge to
wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia which expands rapidly every day.
Some of you may already, but I'd guess most don't.

Wikipedia is being compiled by thousands of people worldwide in several
languages, and anyone can post information or edit existing information.
However, wikipedia is about facts, and bias/points of
view/flames/vandalism etc are taboo and quickly edited out by sysops.
Deliberate vandals are soon blocked from contributing (I don't know
how).

I'm positive that contributions by RAM regulars would make wikipedia a
much richer reference tool. It's at http://en.wikipedia.org/ or if you'd
like to go direct to the mil aviation section that's at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_Aviation. You will see pages that
contain very little, or glaring ommissions. That's because wikipedia
compilation is ongoing and some categories await the submission of
factual information from people like RAM regulars.

I'd strongly suggest that anyone thinking of contributing/editing should
first read style etc guidelines and experiment on the site. I think RAM
would be a very good place for wikipedia military contributors/editors
to discuss controversial info before agreeing what is factual and could
be posted to wikipedia. And if some of the hostility here could be
replaced by thoughtful discussion to determine those facts, it would be
a more valuable use of time. I asked a question here a few days ago, and
based on a response from Bill Silvey (and others), was able to amend
wikipedia with factual information which removed an inference of
uniqueness attributed to the B_2.

Cheers

ronh

Mike Morron wrote:

(Peter Stickney) wrote:

But that's just his online persona - who knows what he (or any of us) are
in real life.

Exactly right. Based on your online persona, you would most definitely
would NOT be on my short list of candidates to fly an IFR approach
with OR plop an ultralight down onto a helicopter landing pad (much
less fly into combat!) Stick to posting aviation stats and figures on
RAM, Pete. Everything else is beneath ya.

you, OTOH, would be among my first choices to ride a pogo stick across
a minefield, so that i, and the other scouts, could cross safely.

redc1c4,
i mean REALLY, what sane person would want to fly with you? %-)
--
A Troop - 1st Squadron
404th Lemming Armored Cavalry

"Velox et Capillatus!"

redc1c4 wrote:

you, OTOH, would be among my first choices to ride a pogo stick across
a minefield, so that i, and the other scouts, could cross safely.

redc1c4,
i mean REALLY, what sane person would want to fly with you? %-)

Well said, Spoken like a true aviator. [goofy emitcon goes here]