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Old February 7th 08, 01:40 PM posted to rec.aviation.military,rec.aviation.military.naval,sci.military.naval,us.military.army
Vince
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Colin Campbell wrote:
On Wed, 06 Feb 2008 14:42:58 -0500, Tiger
wrote:


Well what would you call a Ch-46 or Ch-47? Neither are expected to be
"AIRWOLF" or "Blue Thunder." Yes, it's truck. A pricey truck. But a
better truck in the long run.


Vince does not care about facts. He decided that the aircraft cannot
fly and no real world evidence can convince him otherwise.


It flies, that's about it. it uses 12000 hp to lift a massive empty
weight aircraft.

its a turkey and all the crap that a 12,000 hp aircraft should be
classified as medium lift aircraft cant cover up the crap


This turkey is the same weight and HP as a Ch-53 with a small fraction
of the payload

Vince
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Old February 7th 08, 02:53 PM posted to rec.aviation.military, rec.aviation.military.naval,sci.military.naval, us.military.army
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On Feb 7, 8:40*am, Vince wrote:

This turkey is the same weight and HP as a Ch-53 with a small fraction
of the payload


Plus a hell of a lot more speed and range. Which, IIRC, is the entire
point behind the tiltrotor, that it can go faster and further than
conventional helos. They're not in helicopter mode until and unless
they're touching down somewhere. Even if it's just being used as a
transport, it's still getting from point A to point B faster. And I've
read at least one report that Ospreys have been sent out with Marines
on insurgent hunts.
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Old February 7th 08, 10:21 PM posted to rec.aviation.military,rec.aviation.military.naval,sci.military.naval,us.military.army
Paul J. Adam
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In message
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Typhoon502 writes
On Feb 7, 8:40*am, Vince wrote:

This turkey is the same weight and HP as a Ch-53 with a small fraction
of the payload


Plus a hell of a lot more speed and range. Which, IIRC, is the entire
point behind the tiltrotor, that it can go faster and further than
conventional helos.


Trouble is, that lets you drop light infantry a lot further ahead of the
FEBA than ever before, without artillery or combat vehicles. If the
enemy is in the mood for a fight, the tactical models are places like
Arnhem or Dien Bien Phu...

That's not a particular technical fault of the V-22, it's a problem of
finding a role for it that justifies the cost.

--
The nation that makes a great distinction between its scholars and its
warriors, will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting done
by fools.
-Thucydides


pauldotjdotadam[at]googlemail{dot}.com
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Old February 7th 08, 11:14 PM posted to rec.aviation.military,rec.aviation.military.naval,sci.military.naval,us.military.army
Vince
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Paul J. Adam wrote:
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Typhoon502 writes
On Feb 7, 8:40 am, Vince wrote:

This turkey is the same weight and HP as a Ch-53 with a small fraction
of the payload


Plus a hell of a lot more speed and range. Which, IIRC, is the entire
point behind the tiltrotor, that it can go faster and further than
conventional helos.


Trouble is, that lets you drop light infantry a lot further ahead of the
FEBA than ever before, without artillery or combat vehicles. If the
enemy is in the mood for a fight, the tactical models are places like
Arnhem or Dien Bien Phu...

That's not a particular technical fault of the V-22, it's a problem of
finding a role for it that justifies the cost.


It has more speed but not more range with any given payload


Vince
 




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