Why airplanes fly

To take one personal example, he called me a bad pilot because I make poor
landings in a simulator.

Tell me that's not an insult. Tell me that's being a gentleman.

No, that's not having experience in both worlds, and being stupid.

Many real pilots struggle to land our sim, at first. (See it he
http://www.alexisparkinn.com/flight_simulator.htm ) Our 104" screen makes
it much more realistic (and, thus, easier for a real pilot) -- but it's
still not the same. (No peripheral vision in the flare is the primary
problem for most.)

Bottom line: If MX drives you that nuts, create a simple kill file that
eliminates his posts from your newsreader. It literally takes three key
strokes.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"Jay Honeck" wrote in
news:Bairj.22614$yE1.15160@attbi_s21:

To take one personal example, he called me a bad pilot because I make
poor landings in a simulator.

Tell me that's not an insult. Tell me that's being a gentleman.

No, that's not having experience in both worlds, and being stupid.

Many real pilots struggle to land our sim, at first.


You don;'t land a sim, moron.


Bertie

In rec.aviation.student Jay Honeck wrote:
To take one personal example, he called me a bad pilot because I make poor
landings in a simulator.

Tell me that's not an insult. Tell me that's being a gentleman.

No, that's not having experience in both worlds, and being stupid.

It's not stupidity. The guy is obviously pretty smart. He belittles the
experience of others not because he's a moron, but because he thinks that
his large brain makes up for not having any himself. Put simply, he thinks
he's better than the rest of us. The attitude which comes from that is
insulting, and ungentlemanly.

Many real pilots struggle to land our sim, at first. (See it he
http://www.alexisparkinn.com/flight_simulator.htm ) Our 104" screen makes
it much more realistic (and, thus, easier for a real pilot) -- but it's
still not the same. (No peripheral vision in the flare is the primary
problem for most.)

This is my point exactly. Real pilots *do* have trouble with sims, even
good pilots. But this ****** has decided I'm a bad pilot, and called me
such to my face (at least, the Usenet equivalent of it), despite this
fact. That is an insult, plain and simple, even when put in nice words.

Bottom line: If MX drives you that nuts, create a simple kill file that
eliminates his posts from your newsreader. It literally takes three key
strokes.

I know how to create a kill file, although it takes a few more than three
keystrokes in my newsreader. Rest assured that I will killfile him if he
does start driving me nuts. As it is he's more amusing than annoying. He's
so crazy that it's hard to take it seriously, which is as it should be.

Don't take what I've said above and think that I'm actually *offended* or
anything. It takes a lot more than some ass-clown calling me a bad pilot
to do that. But I object to anyone claiming that he doesn't insult people
and conducts himself as a gentleman just because he uses polite wording.

--
Michael Ash
Rogue Amoeba Software

Michael Ash wrote:

This is my point exactly. Real pilots *do* have trouble with sims, even
good pilots. But this ****** has decided I'm a bad pilot, and called me
such to my face (at least, the Usenet equivalent of it), despite this
fact. That is an insult, plain and simple, even when put in nice words.

I would respectfully offer an opposing opinion to this.

I've worked with Microsoft closely on their simulator program and have
not experienced any "difficulty" reported from real world pilots when
using the simulator. In fact, many pilots use it for practice instrument
and procedures work.
The idea that a real world pilot should be expected to experience
difficulty in the sim because of conflict between actual flying and sim
programming is in my opinion a false premise.
This should not be misconstrued into a context that postulates actual
similarities between using the simulator and flying an actual airplane,
as there are clearly defined differences primarily concerned with
control pressures.
It's interesting to note that the control pressure differences should
offer no problems for the pilot going from the actual airplane into the
sim, but could easily cause problems going the other way.

--
Dudley Henriques

On Feb 10, 8:25*am, Dudley Henriques wrote:

It's interesting to note that the control pressure differences should
offer no problems for the pilot going from the actual airplane into the
sim, but could easily cause problems going the other way.


I agree, I could fly the simulator easily and even land first time
straight on track it but I find the real thing much harder. I'm
guessing but the reduction in data input (to the model and to the
"pilot") coupled with the simplicity of the model makes it easier to
operate. I thought it did not simulate ground effects well either.

Cheers

On Feb 10, 7:59*am, Michael Ash wrote:


To take one personal example, he called me a bad pilot because I make poor
landings in a simulator.


What's so bad abouit not being able to play a flying game well? I'd
just laugh!

Cheers

"Jay Honeck" wrote in
news:JKQqj.20672$9j6.19927@attbi_s22:

But I'm sticking to this opinion: I get an occasional laugh out of
Mx's postulating and theorizing.

At the risk of bringing on Jim's wrath, I agree with you.

IMHO, MX is harmless, and occasionally starts interesting threads that
are actually aviation related. He may ask stupid questions, from time
to time, and he may even be a troll -- but I'll say this for him: He
is always a gentleman, and never stoops to the level of insulting
fellow posters.



Unlike you, hypocrite boi.



Bertie