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#1
November 2nd 03, 01:19 PM
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"Yama" wrote:
: :"WaltBJ" wrote in message . com... : "Nils Rostedt" wrote in message ... : "WaltBJ" wrote in message : Not correct. : http://www.who.int/mental_health/pre...iciderates/en/ : : I see. Only twice the rate in the USA. : :On a plus side, odds of getting gunned down are considerably smaller... Well, odds of getting 'gunned down' here aren't significantly higher than they are in Britain, if one starts off with the assumption that one isn't a gang banger. Stay out of really bad neighborhoods and avoid egregiously stupid behaviour like trying to frighten and ignoring the warnings of armed people in their own homes and your odds are much greater of slipping and falling to death in the bathtub than they are of being 'gunned down'. -- "Rule Number One for Slayers - Don't die." -- Buffy, the Vampire Slayer 
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#2
November 2nd 03, 02:43 PM
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"Fred J. McCall" wrote in message ... "Yama" wrote: :On a plus side, odds of getting gunned down are considerably smaller... Well, odds of getting 'gunned down' here aren't significantly higher than they are in Britain, if one starts off with the assumption that one isn't a gang banger. Stay out of really bad neighborhoods and avoid egregiously stupid behaviour like trying to frighten and ignoring the warnings of armed people in their own homes and your odds are much greater of slipping and falling to death in the bathtub than they are of being 'gunned down'. I don't quite see how this counters my point - "bad neighborhoods" exist in all countries... PS: Faith is better than Buffy
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#3
November 2nd 03, 03:12 PM
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"Yama" wrote:
: :"Fred J. McCall" wrote in message .. . : "Yama" wrote: : :On a plus side, odds of getting gunned down are considerably smaller... : : Well, odds of getting 'gunned down' here aren't significantly higher : than they are in Britain, if one starts off with the assumption that : one isn't a gang banger. Stay out of really bad neighborhoods and : avoid egregiously stupid behaviour like trying to frighten and : ignoring the warnings of armed people in their own homes and your odds : are much greater of slipping and falling to death in the bathtub than : they are of being 'gunned down'. : :I don't quite see how this counters my point - "bad neighborhoods" exist in :all countries... Yes, but most folks don't live in them, so your odds aren't appreciably different here than they are anywhere else. :PS: Faith is better than Buffy Hotter, certainly. But Buffy got most of the good lines. -- "Adrenaline is like exercise, but without the excessive gym fees." -- Professor Walsh, "Buffy the Vampire Slayer"
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#4
November 2nd 03, 08:11 PM
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What's 'really going to get you?'
1) Auto accidents. Another death here this weekend - skidded on the ice, ejected from the car, not wearing a seat belt. 2 'Darwins' here - driving too fast, and no seat belt. FWIW in our two counties here in CO there were 135 ice-related accidents the same weekend. Dumbth coefficient running high. 2) Iatrogenic deaths - due to your friendly medical institution. I just read that in elective 'bariatric surgery' (stomach stitching for obesity) the current death rate is 1 in 200. Also, the current tool for medical-caused deaths in the USA is about 100,000 a year, excelling fire arms and auto accidents combined. That'll give you something to think about as the anesthesia takes hold - 'wonder if I'll wake up?' or worse, 'wonder where I'll wake up?'
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#5
November 3rd 03, 05:47 PM
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#7
November 4th 03, 06:11 PM
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On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 01:09:56 GMT, "Bjørnar Bolsøy" wrote:
Alan Minyard wrote in : On 2 Nov 2003 12:11:47 -0800, (WaltBJ) wrote: What's 'really going to get you?' 1) Auto accidents. Another death here this weekend - skidded on the ice, ejected from the car, not wearing a seat belt. 2 'Darwins' here - driving too fast, and no seat belt. FWIW in our two counties here in CO there were 135 ice-related accidents the same weekend. Dumbth coefficient running high. 2) Iatrogenic deaths - due to your friendly medical institution. I just read that in elective 'bariatric surgery' (stomach stitching for obesity) the current death rate is 1 in 200. Also, the current tool for medical-caused deaths in the USA is about 100,000 a year, excelling fire arms and auto accidents combined. That'll give you something to think about as the anesthesia takes hold - 'wonder if I'll wake up?' or worse, 'wonder where I'll wake up?' Walt If I lived in europe I would have been dead thirteen years ago. Their medical care system is pathetic compared to what it could be. It is no wonder that so many docs in the US are from the EU or Canada. Which particular european nations and medical care system are you refering to? Regards... All of them. They are decades behind the US Medical Care system. Al Minyard
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#8
November 4th 03, 07:33 AM
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Alan Minyard wrote in message . ..
On 2 Nov 2003 12:11:47 -0800, (WaltBJ) wrote: What's 'really going to get you?' 1) Auto accidents. Another death here this weekend - skidded on the ice, ejected from the car, not wearing a seat belt. 2 'Darwins' here - driving too fast, and no seat belt. FWIW in our two counties here in CO there were 135 ice-related accidents the same weekend. Dumbth coefficient running high. 2) Iatrogenic deaths - due to your friendly medical institution. I just read that in elective 'bariatric surgery' (stomach stitching for obesity) the current death rate is 1 in 200. Also, the current tool for medical-caused deaths in the USA is about 100,000 a year, excelling fire arms and auto accidents combined. That'll give you something to think about as the anesthesia takes hold - 'wonder if I'll wake up?' or worse, 'wonder where I'll wake up?' Walt If I lived in europe I would have been dead thirteen years ago. Their medical care system is pathetic compared to what it could be. This is true. The Swedish medical system, for instance, is as pathetic as the American one. And it doesn't have to be. It's just for socialist ideological reasons we have it the way we do.
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#9
November 2nd 03, 05:15 PM
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On Sun, 02 Nov 2003 13:19:22 GMT, Fred J. McCall wrote:
"Yama" wrote: : :"WaltBJ" wrote in message .com... : "Nils Rostedt" wrote in message ... : "WaltBJ" wrote in message : Not correct. : http://www.who.int/mental_health/pre...iciderates/en/ : : I see. Only twice the rate in the USA. : :On a plus side, odds of getting gunned down are considerably smaller... Well, odds of getting 'gunned down' here aren't significantly higher than they are in Britain, if one starts off with the assumption that one isn't a gang banger. Stay out of really bad neighborhoods and avoid egregiously stupid behaviour like trying to frighten and ignoring the warnings of armed people in their own homes and your odds are much greater of slipping and falling to death in the bathtub than they are of being 'gunned down'. Not to mention the fact that I can, and would, shoot back!!!!!!! Al Minyard
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#10
November 2nd 03, 07:12 PM
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"Alan Minyard" wrote in message ... On Sun, 02 Nov 2003 13:19:22 GMT, Fred J. McCall wrote: Well, odds of getting 'gunned down' here aren't significantly higher than they are in Britain, if one starts off with the assumption that one isn't a gang banger. Stay out of really bad neighborhoods and avoid egregiously stupid behaviour like trying to frighten and ignoring the warnings of armed people in their own homes and your odds are much greater of slipping and falling to death in the bathtub than they are of being 'gunned down'. Not to mention the fact that I can, and would, shoot back!!!!!!! But we don't have to (though we certainly could...lotsa guns in Finland)
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