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Old February 9th 08, 01:53 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Jay Honeck[_2_]
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You really still have nice things to say about him, even as the smell
lingers?


I prefer to look at MX differently.

Almost every Movie Night, we have a mildly retarded young man and his
"keeper" show up. (For those who don't know, we show an aviation movie
every Tuesday night, at our aviation themed hotel.) The event is open to
the public, and free -- and the kid loves airplanes, so he comes.

All of the real pilots have made him feel welcome, even though he
occasionally blurts out something stupid or inappropriate. They recognize
that he's harmless, happens to love aviation, and -- although he's mildly
annoying -- we all slap him on the back when he arrives.

That's MX.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

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Old February 9th 08, 02:08 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting, rec.aviation.student
Tina
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Trust me on this: Anthony is not mildly retarded. I'd guess his IQ is
in at least the mid 120s (I wouldn't know what side of 127 to bet on,
frankly). His problems have to do with failures in different life
skills areas, and he gets his kicks cheaply here by annoying people
who for the most part have successful lives. Where else can someone
with a simulated life annoy so many people with real ones?

And of course responses feed his ego.

The interesting thing is, others who exhibit the same characteristics
who have been my patients really do think of themselves as superior
and don't, for the most part, understand why that isn't generally
recognized..




8:53*am, "Jay Honeck" wrote:
You really still have nice things to say about him, even as the smell
lingers?


I prefer to look at MX differently.

Almost every Movie Night, we have a mildly retarded young man and his
"keeper" show up. * (For those who don't know, we show an aviation movie
every Tuesday night, at our aviation themed hotel.) *The event is open to
the public, and free -- and the kid loves airplanes, so he comes.

All of the real pilots have made him feel welcome, even though he
occasionally blurts out something stupid or inappropriate. *They recognize
that he's harmless, happens to love aviation, and -- although he's mildly
annoying -- we all slap him on the back when he arrives.

That's MX.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


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Old February 9th 08, 02:45 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Jay Honeck[_2_]
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Trust me on this: Anthony is not mildly retarded. I'd guess his IQ is
in at least the mid 120s (I wouldn't know what side of 127 to bet on,


I know it's not a perfect analogy. MX is quite bright, in many ways.

But he *is* inappropriate, and he *is* interested in aviation. And, as long
as you ignore his occasional incorrect outbursts, he is harmless -- just
like our Tuesday visitor. (The only thing missing is the keeper -- *that*
is what MX really needs.)

I used to occasionally worry about what students and newbies might
incorrectly learn from Anthony, but then Bertie came along and proved that a
real pilot could be far worse -- so I stopped worrying...
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

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Old February 9th 08, 03:30 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Bertie the Bunyip[_25_]
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in
news:A0jrj.22671$yE1.21723@attbi_s21:

Trust me on this: Anthony is not mildly retarded. I'd guess his IQ is
in at least the mid 120s (I wouldn't know what side of 127 to bet on,


I know it's not a perfect analogy. MX is quite bright, in many ways.

But he *is* inappropriate, and he *is* interested in aviation. And,
as long as you ignore his occasional incorrect outbursts, he is
harmless -- just like our Tuesday visitor. (The only thing missing is
the keeper -- *that* is what MX really needs.)

I used to occasionally worry about what students and newbies might
incorrectly learn from Anthony, but then Bertie came along and proved
that a real pilot could be far worse -- so I stopped worrying...


Ogh dear, you better cal the FAA, cause I stil tewach peole to fly,
fjukkwit.


And you teach them nonthing. (Don't worry, you can reply obliquiley to this
by pretending you saw it in another posters reply)




Berti
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Old February 9th 08, 03:13 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Dudley Henriques[_2_]
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Tina wrote:
Trust me on this: Anthony is not mildly retarded. I'd guess his IQ is
in at least the mid 120s (I wouldn't know what side of 127 to bet on,
frankly). His problems have to do with failures in different life
skills areas, and he gets his kicks cheaply here by annoying people
who for the most part have successful lives. Where else can someone
with a simulated life annoy so many people with real ones?

And of course responses feed his ego.

The interesting thing is, others who exhibit the same characteristics
who have been my patients really do think of themselves as superior
and don't, for the most part, understand why that isn't generally
recognized..




8:53 am, "Jay Honeck" wrote:
You really still have nice things to say about him, even as the smell
lingers?

I prefer to look at MX differently.

Almost every Movie Night, we have a mildly retarded young man and his
"keeper" show up. (For those who don't know, we show an aviation movie
every Tuesday night, at our aviation themed hotel.) The event is open to
the public, and free -- and the kid loves airplanes, so he comes.

All of the real pilots have made him feel welcome, even though he
occasionally blurts out something stupid or inappropriate. They recognize
that he's harmless, happens to love aviation, and -- although he's mildly
annoying -- we all slap him on the back when he arrives.

That's MX.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"



I'm far from being qualified to make these judgments but your read is
almost exactly my own on this issue.

--
Dudley Henriques
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Old February 9th 08, 03:28 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Bertie the Bunyip[_25_]
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in
news:Pfirj.22610$9j6.10676@attbi_s22:

You really still have nice things to say about him, even as the smell
lingers?


I prefer to look at MX differently.

Almost every Movie Night, we have a mildly retarded young man and his
"keeper" show up. (For those who don't know, we show an aviation
movie every Tuesday night, at our aviation themed hotel.)



Spam noted.



All of the real pilots have made him feel welcome, even though he
occasionally blurts out something stupid or inappropriate.


He, they've had a lot of practice with you.


Bertie
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Old February 9th 08, 06:51 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Michael Ash
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In rec.aviation.student Jay Honeck wrote:
You really still have nice things to say about him, even as the smell
lingers?


I prefer to look at MX differently.

Almost every Movie Night, we have a mildly retarded young man and his
"keeper" show up. (For those who don't know, we show an aviation movie
every Tuesday night, at our aviation themed hotel.) The event is open to
the public, and free -- and the kid loves airplanes, so he comes.

All of the real pilots have made him feel welcome, even though he
occasionally blurts out something stupid or inappropriate. They recognize
that he's harmless, happens to love aviation, and -- although he's mildly
annoying -- we all slap him on the back when he arrives.

That's MX.


The three key attributes you see in your movie night fellow are that he
loves aviation, he has a low IQ, and all of the real pilots make him feel
welcome. All three are the exact opposite of MX, so your statement that
this is MX is really odd.

The guy is obviously very smart in many ways. He's missing wisdom, in the
sense that he vastly underestimates the value of experience and the
knowledge of other, but for straight logical IQ-style intelligence he's
obviously pretty far up there.

Despite his constant simming and posting about aviation, he does not love
aviation. You might disagree with me, but just try offering him a flight.
I submit that if you offer a free flight to someone and he turns it down
for reasons other than medical or time, he does not love aviation. Maybe
he loves to look at it, or talk about it, but not the thing itself.

And, of course, his attitude has resulted in scorn from most of the real
pilots here.

Take your movie night fellow, replace him with a smart guy who thinks he's
better than everyone else in the room but is afraid to actually get in any
of their airplanes, who casually insults the people there, who talks about
his MSFS flying as if it were real, and who never, ever backs down from an
argument even when he's obviously out of his depth, and see how things
work out for him then.

--
Michael Ash
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Old February 9th 08, 06:56 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Bertie the Bunyip[_25_]
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Michael Ash wrote in
:

In rec.aviation.student Jay Honeck wrote:
You really still have nice things to say about him, even as the
smell lingers?


I prefer to look at MX differently.

Almost every Movie Night, we have a mildly retarded young man and his
"keeper" show up. (For those who don't know, we show an aviation
movie every Tuesday night, at our aviation themed hotel.) The event
is open to the public, and free -- and the kid loves airplanes, so he
comes.

All of the real pilots have made him feel welcome, even though he
occasionally blurts out something stupid or inappropriate. They
recognize that he's harmless, happens to love aviation, and --
although he's mildly annoying -- we all slap him on the back when he
arrives.

That's MX.


The three key attributes you see in your movie night fellow are that
he loves aviation, he has a low IQ, and all of the real pilots make
him feel welcome. All three are the exact opposite of MX, so your
statement that this is MX is really odd.

The guy is obviously very smart in many ways. He's missing wisdom, in
the sense that he vastly underestimates the value of experience and
the knowledge of other, but for straight logical IQ-style intelligence
he's obviously pretty far up there.

Despite his constant simming and posting about aviation, he does not
love aviation. You might disagree with me, but just try offering him a
flight. I submit that if you offer a free flight to someone and he
turns it down for reasons other than medical or time, he does not love
aviation. Maybe he loves to look at it, or talk about it, but not the
thing itself.

And, of course, his attitude has resulted in scorn from most of the
real pilots here.

Take your movie night fellow, replace him with a smart guy who thinks
he's better than everyone else in the room but is afraid to actually
get in any of their airplanes, who casually insults the people there,
who talks about his MSFS flying as if it were real, and who never,
ever backs down from an argument even when he's obviously out of his
depth, and see how things work out for him then.

Jay's just looking for friends..



Bertie
 




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